[Leica] Photo bikes

[dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong)]

I had my Dahon foldie fitted with racks that could hang Ortlieb panniers 
from. These panniers come in two sizes and I think the smaller one can 
easily fit a large camera with some padding, the other pannier keeps day 
pack stuffs like drinking water, snack, towel, spare clothing, and handphone 
battery charging pack, spare tube, pump and bike tool kit.  These Ortliebs 
are designed to be quick released. Ride from dawn to dusk. 

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> On 18 Jun 2017, at 7:51 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> Few LUG posts or anything I?ve read anywhere I?ve enjoyed and appreciated 
> more than this way informative post on bikes by Larry.
> I think bikes are a miracle and just as I am a cat and dog lover living in 
> a pet free apartment building so am I a bike lover who walks extensively 
> and rides buses and trains. But I do with all my walking get a lot of 
> shots on a regular basis. Most often after dark.
> I rode my blue Schwinn Continental with chrome forks all over the North 
> Shore of Chicago long after riding a bike was thought uncool by my high 
> school consensus. Apparently, you were supposed to convince your parents 
> to buy you a car at that point (15 years old). I told my dad to buy me an 
> MGBGT, in green please (a kid pulled up to school with one!). He told me 
> he wanted one too. I rode all over western St. Louis in the early 70?s 
> when I was there for 5 years.
> George Eastman, it seems had a phobia. Bicycles. The bicycle craze hit 
> right before his camera craze turn of the century and he thought in due 
> time people would trade back all their cameras for bikes and just do that 
> instead. So, all Kodak cameras had bike accessories so these too crazes 
> could be integrated from the get-go. Brackets to get your camera mounted 
> on your handlebars etc. Ill-conceived yes as it turned out there is room 
> in this world for both bikes and cameras to exist in tandem peaceably. But 
> I think maybe not at the same time.
> I?m with Larry on not mounting stuff to your bike but keeping it on your 
> person (back) instead. I do think if a Leica M cannot be worn effectively 
> on your back and pulled out quickly for a shot while staying dry in 
> between and cushioned for a fall it?s not done its job at being a Leica. 
> But taking a fall on a bike which is going to something?s happen is going 
> to be expensive as the camera is going to suffer.  And if that camera cost 
> thousands of dollars then I?m going to suffer.  A hard case I?d think 
> might be the answer. A waterproof one at that. 
> Airbags need to be invented for bikes. If filled with helium they could 
> take you high away from the wreckage and you?d still make it home in time 
> for dinner.
> I think bikes are a miracle in that they get you from one place to another 
> amazingly quick the only gas being your granola bars and you just do it 
> all yourself. This is way unappreciated. Some wars were fought I think WWI 
> with many troop movements done on bikes. Fast and quiet. A miracle as far 
> as I?m concerned. I think WWII even had some of that going on in Europe. 
> I wonder if this; Lowepro DryZone Backpack 40L MFR # LP36578 might be a 
> solution for camera biking with gear that you?d not want to lose either 
> from rain or a roll on your bike?
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/971411-REG/lowepro_lp36578_pww_dryzone_backpack_40l_yellow.html
> I wonder if when the sun comes out you don?t get a mini tropical rain 
> forest inside the bag?  Despite the yellow. And if the bag has quite 
> enough padding for a rolling down a hard tarmac on your back.  And if this 
> rolling close off the bag is not just way too hard to do and takes too 
> long. Well its only $150 bucks. And is bright yellow. 
> Which is great because its yellow the problem being its yellow.
> Or the OverBoard Pro-Sports Waterproof Backpack which cost $109 in brown 
> not yellow a good yet bad thing.
> In some ways, I feel that biking is great for getting there and not so 
> much for in-between smelling the roses and getting a shot of them. You 
> hate to lose your momentum and or get killed. You hate to get your camera 
> messed up. Maybe the best way to combine mobility with photography is 
> walking. 
> You get there a lot less fast but in photography it?s not getting there 
> its being there. And working it.
> -- 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
> 
> On 6/14/17, 3:52 PM, "LUG on behalf of Larry Zeitlin via LUG" 
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
> leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>        While I can?t claim to be a camera expert, I have a lot of 
> experience with bicyces. For a number of years I biked ten miles to and 
> from work every fair weather day. It's not that I'm an eco-freak but just 
> that I was willing to trade a half hour ride each way for the hassle of 
> auto traffic and parking. My son and I were members of the Golden Apple 
> bicycle club and took long rides through the countryside on Fall weekends. 
> When we were younger and more fit, my wife, a less dedicated biker, and I 
> would occasionally take our bikes on vacations to National Parks and the 
> Blue Ridge Parkway. I still bike around the Adirondack foothills near my 
> home. As you can guess, I have definite opinions on suitable bicycles for 
> casual riding and associated photography. Here is some hard learned advice 
> to would be photo-bikers: 
>        First, unless you have a very good suspension system on a bike, any 
> container or bag attached to the frame will be subject to jolts and severe 
> vibration unless you are on the smoothest of roads. Particularly bad are 
> bags attached to a carrier over the rear wheel. Suspension systems are 
> designed to ease the ride for the rider, not the bike itself. If you carry 
> a camera on your bike trip, keep it in a small day bag or pack worn on 
> your back. Clearly weight is important so get the lightest equipment you 
> consider adequate.
>        Second, bikes are low security vehicles. In many venues you cannot 
> leave a bike unattended for more than a few minutes and expect it to be 
> there when you return. In several decades of riding, I have had entire 
> bikes stolen, wheels removed, and expensive components snatched, even 
> through the bike was tethered to a rack or lamp post by a presumably 
> unbreakable lock or cable. A bicycle thief wielding a chain cutter can 
> steal a bike in 15 seconds. Moral - do not leave your new Leica in a bike 
> pack while you relieve yourself in a pissoir.
>        Third, bikes have no weather protection. If it rains, you will get 
> wet. Your camera should be able to handle dampness and the container 
> should be waterproof.
>        All that being said, I've found that the best film cameras are 
> small P&S types. I used to use a trusty Rollei 35, then experimented with 
> a number of less costly P&S cameras before settling on a relatively 
> weatherproof Olympus Infinity Twin. That's the one with two lenses, a 35 
> mm and a 70 mm. Now that the photo world has gone digital, I carry a 
> venerable Canon 780 Elph P&S. It takes clear, sharp pictures and is cheap 
> enough so I won't cry if it gets stolen or damaged. Of course, if you want 
> to take really great photos while biking, carry the best equipment you can 
> afford but be very, very watchful and have good insurance.
>        Finally, folding bicycles are the Devil's invention. Bikers cherish 
> bikes with stiff, light weight frames. Most folding bicycles have neither. 
> Multiple joints in the frame encourage a definite wiggle. If not 
> immediately, then after a season's modest use. The hinges welded to the 
> crossbar and downtube are heavy and the strain they impose on the 
> bicycle's frame means that it must be constructed of thick walled tubing. 
> This makes the frame heavy for its size. The total weight of a good road 
> or mountain bike is 20 to 24 lbs. Most folding bikes weigh in on the far 
> side of 30 lbs, often as much as 35 or 36 lbs. In addition, most folding 
> bikes have small wheels, 16" to 20". This gives a bone jarring ride on all 
> but the smoothest roads. Sure, they fold up into compact packages but the 
> purpose of a bike is to ride, not to store. After a few wiggly, bumpy 
> rides on a hard to control folder, the average biker will call a cab 
> instead.
>        That's not to say that all folding bikes are bad. Some are very 
> good.  Moultons, DaHons and Bike Fridays are examples. But they are quite 
> expensive. A lot of precision maching goes into making joints that won't 
> loosen, attached to lightweight high tech frames to keep the weight down.
>        If you keep to paved roads buy a bike without suspension. 
> Suspensions add weight and are desirable only for off road riding. Bikes 
> are available with rust resistant aluminum frames. Most of the components 
> are aluminum as well and, if given a reasonable amount of care and 
> periodic lubrication, they will hold up as long as you desire. I have two 
> Raleigh bikes over 35 years old. The first made with all aluminum frames 
> The bikes have a lifetime frame guarantee. I wish I had one too.
>        If you have a little more money or less space, I recommend a 
> Montague folding bicycle. This is essentially a standard bike where the 
> front half of the frame pivots around the seat tube, the tube that goes 
> from the seat to the pedals. I believe that Dahon distributed them for a 
> while. A modification of this bike is the one designed by DARPA for 
> Special Forces, Paratroopers, and Marines. A civilian version costs about 
> $650, weighs 29 lbs, and folds into a package 3 ft by 3 ft by 1 ft. 
> Unfolded, you have a 24 speed mountain bike with 26" wheels. Large bike 
> dealers carry them or they can be ordered from Montague at 
> www.militarybikes.com. For those who don't need to drop their bikes from 
> airplanes, slightly less rugged versions are available at lower prices.
> 
>    Larry Z
> 
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