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No argument here.? Very sharp detail.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 1/16/2018 9:24 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
> The 50/1.4 is not too shabby either!
>
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/165790907/large
>
> View Original if you want to see it HUGE!
>
> I used it for a lot of the portraits of the Syrian kids.
>
> I have always preferred prime lenses but I am using the 24-90 a lot more
> often these days!  I tend to take out the 50/1.4 when I am in a relaxed
> setting and can sit down and concentrate on only taking photos, not
> walking, talking and taking photos at the same time!
>
> Tina
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Nice real-world examples, Jeff.  The 24-90 seems to be the pick of the
>> litter.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>>
>> On 1/16/2018 1:11 AM, Jeff Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I like the SL enough that for two years running I've rented an SL and
>>> at least one of its official lenses to cover the annual WFMU
>>> Fundraising Marathon.
>>>
>>> It's pretty heavy (the body is really an exceptionally dense block of
>>> metal) and the lenses are just not anything like compact...  but I had
>>> a really high hit rate, an unusually high percentage of technically
>>> good photos (so my edit time included less technical culling and more
>>> just choosing favorites) shooting with the SL and those lenses.
>>>
>>> For 2016 the SL lens I rented was the 24-90 zoom:
>>>
>>>       https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/albums/72157665752167155
>>>
>>> In 2017, I rented the SL 50mm Summilux:
>>>
>>>       https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/albums/72157677882464254
>>>
>>> (There'll also be M240 pictures and SL pictures with other lenses
>>> mixed in there, but the named lenses were used for the bulk of each
>>> year and the EXIF data will tell you which).
>>>
>>> My observations:
>>>
>>>       I really like the SL as a picture-taking machine, but I can't at
>>> this time justify buying it or carrying it around every day.  I expect
>>> to continue to rent one for high-picture-volume events.
>>>
>>>       I'm not in general a fan of zooms, and I have prejudice against
>>> variable-maximum-aperture zooms;  but I came to like the 24-90/2.8-4 a
>>> lot.  It's definitely the lens I got the highest proportion of keepers
>>> with.
>>>
>>>       I like the look of the pictures with the 50/1.4, but I definitely
>>> had more technically-imperfect pictures shooting with it than with the
>>> 24-90.  And it's nearly as big and heavy!
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Don,
>>>> I tried the SL with my M lenses and the Leica SL-M adapter. I had a very
>>>> hard time getting quick focus with that. Emphasis on quick. I used
>>>> various
>>>> methods: having the SL save a jpeg BW file which put the viewfinder in BW
>>>> mode, different colors to highlight in focus areas(focus peaking I think
>>>> it's called), view enlargement, etc. No love. Just couldn't do it as fast
>>>> as a rangefinder for critical focus (on eyes) at low apertures. And the
>>>> autofocus, though it worked marvelously was difficult for accurate wide
>>>> open focusing on moving subjects (dog, grands, even others who simply may
>>>> have moved their heads).
>>>>
>>>> I do think the SL is a fantastic travel kit. Putting that 90-280 on your
>>>> belt in a lens case and resting the SL with the 24-90 on it would be a
>>>> fantastic travel kit! But alas I don't travel that much to warrant the
>>>> system. I find the M much more to my liking (even with an old Nocti glued
>>>> to it). Very simple and the M glass seems particularly well mated to the
>>>> sensor. I did not feel that way about M glass on the SL. Something was
>>>> very
>>>> different IMO.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm no pro like Tina, so this is just my personal impression.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Adler
>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>>>> *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Don Dory <don.dory at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They are using stepping motors so more alike the focusing Sony uses on
>>>>> their G series or like Zeiss used on their autofocus camera that moved
>>>>> the
>>>>> focal plane.  Quicker, quiet, and extremely precise as they stop
>>>>> immediately for all practical purposes.  If you go back to the
>>>>> Lensrental
>>>>> blogs you can see how single focal length glass is better with lower
>>>>> individual unit deviation, so I am glad that the major optical houses
>>>>> are
>>>>> offering really good single focal length glass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really, with the M adapters you have your choice; small light and M
>>>>> glass,
>>>>> or autofocus and a much larger lens of "equal" optical quality.  Other
>>>>> than
>>>>> price who is against choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Marketing gibberish
>>>>>> Translation:  We did not try to make it smaller, we tried to make it
>>>>>> better,
>>>>>> therefore the size didn't matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rack and pinion type of focusing that the picture shows is atypical
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>> AF lenses... most use rotary motors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Robert Adler
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:15 AM
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it says all this was done to, "to preserve the compact dimensions
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lenses"...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com
>>>>>> *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have been talking about how fat the SL lenses are in comparison to
>>>>>>> M lenses..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leica just announced the 75 and 90mm SL lenses.  In the intro
>>>>>>> information is a picture of what the lens looks like INSIDE..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will explain a lot about the diameter issues..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please have a look..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-SL/SL-
>>>>>>> Lenses/Prime-Lenses/APO-S
>>>>>>> ummicron-SL-75
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
>>>>>
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In reply to: Message from jbmmllug at jbm.org (Jeff Moore) ([Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation)
Message from jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation)
Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation)