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Subject: [Leica] Leica M6 Anniversary
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 14:10:45 +0200
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Amen!

Cheers
Lluis

> El 25 set 2024, a les 4:43, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org> va escriure:
> 
> It is also fair to mention that there are a LOT of M's out there.  Spare 
> parts could be fashioned form raw steel, etc or could be scavenged form a 
> different body.   Any mechanical camera can be made today, given the right 
> technical skills.
> 
> But you can not, without billions of dollars, make a 256mb dRam chip.  And 
> that is why digital camera have given life spans.  Parts to make them are 
> out of production.
> 
> Ever notic how every new DigiM is compared to the M3?  Says something 
> special about that M3.
> 
> And there is one more salient comment.... an M3, even form the original 
> series of manufacture (1953? 1954?) , is still a state of the art camera.  
> It has never been eclipsed.  While I like to think of the M6 as THE best 
> M, with its built in meter, the M3 is equally capable of making equally 
> great images.  It is no better than an M3.
> 
> In digital, with all the features, and with technology making new designs 
> imperative ( the old 1GB Ram chips are long out of production as an 
> example, another being the Motorola 68000 PowerPC processors that fueled 
> Apple's success, when Motorola discontinued it, and Apple had to use Intel 
> processors....) and bigger is better, the classic M is timeless.  Nothing 
> eclipses it.
> 
> Try saying that about an M8.  Not going to happen.
> 
> Quickie History on Leica digital cameras....
> 
> The S1, a huge, first in the world Digi camera, that succeeded, to some 
> degree, in the market to archive documents.  A failure otherwise.
> 
> The M8.  APS-C sensor killed it as full frame sensors became pretty 
> universal.
> 
> The M9.  The sensor cover glass fiasco killed this camera, although the 
> Monochrom is still a desirable camera.
> 
> The M240.  Ridiculed for being 3mm too thick.  ( If you want proof that 
> thee isTHE correct sized Leica camera, look at what happened to the M5).  
> The 24MP sensor was designed and made FOR LEICA, when Sony turned down 
> Leica as a customer.  While I have no real facts on this, the commercial 
> need to make a new IC ( a digital sensor is an IC that is special purpose) 
> was so great that they produced with this design way too late, just for 
> the sake of a contract to produce or purchase enough.  At least they 
> somewhat learned their lesson....
> 
> Th M10 was going to go nowhere, At 24MP it was hard to differentiate to a 
> M240, except for that terribly large and bulky 3mm thing.......BTW, 3mm is 
> slightly less than 1/8 of an inch. after Leica armed it with a 40MP sensor 
> (M10-R) it was an instant winner.
> 
> The M11, at 60MP is state of the art, in terms of features.  Customers 
> claim it has too much resolution.  (You can not win no matter what you 
> do.....)  the money is betting that the M10M or M10R is THE ideal DIgi M. 
> Enough resolution.
> 
> But my story is that each of these cameras was a major improvement (or 
> maybe the word ...further.... is better),  than its predecessor.  And thus 
> it REPLACED its predecessor, making the previous model fully eclipsed.
> 
> Never happened with the traditional film M.  Perfection from day 1.
> 
> 
> 
> Frank Filippone
> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> 
> On 9/24/2024 11:14 AM, Dan Khong via LUG wrote:
>> Only 10% of my cameras are digital, the rest being film. I don't expect my
>> digital cameras to live beyond 20 years at most. Hardly any manufacturer
>> will keep electronic spares for so long. They make more money selling new
>> cameras. The IIIf and M6 can live so long because they are mechanical film
>> types which can be repaired by any competent repairman.
>> 
>> Dan K.
>> 
>> On Tue, 24 Sept 2024 at 22:31, Lluis Ripoll via LUG<lug at 
>> leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Happy Birthday Leica M6!
>>> 
>>> Today my M6 is 27 years old, still very young, my IIIF is 70 years old!
>>> I hope that digital artifacts has also a long life!
>>> #LeicaM6#lluisripollphotography
>>> 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Leica_M6.jpg.html>
>>> 
>>> Saludos cordiales
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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