Re: [Leica] Re- Clementine

["Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net>]

Kim:

And what business of yours was it to lecture a specific photographer about
anything much less legal matters? If you don't have a state bar license I
seriously doubt your are qualified to give a legal opinion and may be guilty
of  barristery.

Just the typical "control freak" wanting to control one more human being I
take it.

If  "model release" is an "issue for potential discussion"  as you now say,
why not give us your dissertation but leave the specific photographer out of
it.  Then you may ramble on with no harm being done.

Let the specific photographer alone. Let him do his thing.

By the way, where are your Leica photos?

Don R.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Teresa299@aol.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re- Clementine


>
> In a message dated 9/30/02 4:59:19 PM, gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca writes:
>
> << I agree!
>
> Pascal wrote:
>
> >On 30-09-2002 17:32 Neal Friedenthal wrote:
> >
> >>I usually avoid jumping in on these "controversial" threads, but I have
to
> do
> >>so here. While I have no problems with the image itself, it is quite
nice
> and
> >>very
> >>tastefully done, everyone seems to have missed one important issue,
> Clementine
> >>is only 17 years old. At 17 she is below the age of concent.  Her parent
or
> >>guardian would have to give permission for the picture to be posted or
for
> >>that matter taken. The photographer has left himself open for possible
civil
> >>or even
> >>criminal action should the girl or her parents object to the photo. To
> >>photograph a minor, nude, without parental permission and supervision
leaves
> >>the
> >>photographer open to a charge of statutory rape even if, as I'm sure is
the
> >>case here, nothing more happened than the photo session.  To take the
photo
> >>even
> >>with parental concent would in my opinion be ill advised, to post it
without
> >>permission is downright stupid.  Believe me I am no prude, but I am a
> realist
> >>you have
> >>to cover your butt in this world.
> >>
> >
> >I think that those who had a concern over this should have better
contacted
> >Gerry directly via private email instead of stirring up yet another
debate
> >in the LUG.
> >
> >Pascal
> >NO ARCHIVE
> > >>
>
>
> I understand that the LUG has been irrationally contentious of late, but I
> certainly hope that in the spirit of civility the LUG doesn't become a
hollow
> shell of yes-men and a few women.
>
> I raised the issue of consent not as a form of bashing Gerry on the head
but
> simply expressing that in my mind it's a common courtesy to ask a nude
> subject's consent before posting his or her photo on the web.   Whilst I
> could have emailed Gerry directly, why would I?  Neither my point nor my
post
> was intended or contructed to embarass the man, rather it's an issue of
> potential discussion.
>
> If simple discussion of issues on the LUG has automatically become equated
> with controversy I'm hard pressed to see which is worse, unending
bickering
> or the silent death that befalls a community of folks afraid to speak.
>
>
> -kim
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