Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]you are raising several points and i,d like to recap whether i understood you correctly and try to answer first my remark deals with advertising which is nowhere as advanced as in the USA And this is a compliment. Second the USA became a economic and military powerhouse because of all the outside effort and people that was poured into it. Regarding the military bit though one has to realise that ultimately it is not superior to any other of the five permanent members. Each has the ability to obliterate any other within 12 minutes. Economically also it depends a bit on foreign investments. And on weapons exports. The last 10 years were great in that respect with all the neat stuff they sold in the middle east. Especially to the Saudi,s.The stuff they got is not even in the western arsenal US included. A lamp unto the nations is just rhetoric i believe. For the record, i,m from jewish descent and my being here is probably related to the english,soviet and american effort in ww2. However to believe that the American help was purely humanitarian then is naive at best.The worst threat was the nazis aquiring a nuclear device and their rocket and jet plane methods of delivery. Anyhow that was then. The division of old versus new Europe is not a real one and not really consistent with a modern global viewpoint is it? We dont have to teach Americans anything.If they want to study history thats up to them isn,t it? Whether they learn anything is beyond anyones influence. What is heard here a lot though is the abolition of the concept of the innocent civilian. These days in the developed parts of the world one cannot say convincingly wir haben es nicht etc. It is felt that the question why the western world and especially the USA is under attack is not really adressed. To change the subject,at the moment it is very interesting to see if the USA will go it alone. I know from previous experience that it has to be now or otherwise later than November to fight succesfully in the desert. If the states choose to disregard the UN framework then the other countries will isolate it i think. Where is the proof that the USA is under attack by Iraq? simon p.s it,s a cold windy night here but i want to go out by boat to try the stabiliser with the leica for the first time i,m out of TMZ so i,ll try Scala at 1600 .No idea what that will look like - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard J Kapner" <ljkapner@cox.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: [Leica] US Consumer Behavior > What a quaint notion, this about American consumer behavior... > > If American consumers are all as foolish, stupid and vacuous as this > statement would have us believe, how did the US ever become the world's > economic and military powerhouse, and "a lamp unto the nations" as is > generally acknowledged? > > I must have missed something. Perhaps "Old Europe" still has some > important lessons to teach America... I wonder what they might be? > > ----- > > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:59:19 +0100 > From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leicavit, After Market Products, etc. > Message-ID: <017001c2e490$387795e0$388a8418@symkeehx5nw8g8> > References: <009201c2e420$6a6f4a40$0316fea9@ccasony01> > > You are overlooking i believe an important point especially for the > American market and that is advertising and product > perception.Especially in the United States consumers do not decide > logically but are won over by advertising and hype. In that regard > sometimes one has to offer a product at an inflated price. People will > not even buy it if it is cheaper. If real Vuitton handbags cost 5 > dollars people would buy little zeros or whatever. I bet a lot of > normally quite sane New York girls go crazy for Manolo Blahniks without > ever having try them on just because "sex in the city".Probably the same > goes for the winder. If you try mr.Tom,s product ,instantly you know > that it,s well built ,a lot sturdier then any camera and highly > functional but it,s not an expensive Leica part making it less desirable > to the general public. simon > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html