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Subject: Re: [Leica] Fw: looking for line pairs with a stabiliser and a Leica and question
From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:38:07 +0100
References: <002201c3ca60$965219e0$388a8418@symkeehx5nw8g8> <3FEA1243.7080201@hemenway.com>

An odd mismatch of the taste testing accuracy part versus the number of
tests.
Simon

> And... what were the effects of the simultaneous Laphroig versus
> Lagavullin testing?
>
> :-)
>
> Jim - http://www.hemenway.com
>
>
>
>
> animal wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the earlier empty post.
> > Here goes.
> > A collegue and myself wanted to find out if we could get 80 line pairs
per
> > millimeter using a Leica and a Kenyon gyro stabiliser.
> > We could not find those data in literature so last night, while also
doing a
> > test of Laphroig versus Lagavullin,
> > we decided to give it a try ourselves.
> >
> > We scribbled some lines on a piece of paper with a group of line pairs
one 1
> > cm per pair and the other 5 mm per pair.
> > With a Noctilux 18 meters away we calculated the image on the film to be
36
> > and 72 line pairs per millimeter.
> > We suspended the camera and running gyro from a bungee cord and started.
> > First exposure was at 1/250 second and f1.0 going in stops to 1 second
and
> > f16.0.
> >
> > Then we tried the same sequence while handholding the camera and bracing
> > ourselves in a doorway.
> >
> > By then we became to doubt the ability of a 4000 dpi scanner to resolve
our
> > results.
> > While one would assume that 4000 dpi translates to 80 line pairs per
> > millimeter,some knowledgeable people we asked suggested that 60lp/mm is
> > about the best such a scanner can do.
> > So we had to aim a little lower and did the same test with an
aasummicron90
> > mm and the stabiliser starting at 1/60 and f2.0  .
> >
> > Although our test was hastily done it still yielded some suprises to us.
> > The biggest being that the stabiliser clearly is able to permit shots at
1
> > second.
> > Others were that the noctilux was still giving good results at f 4.0 and
5.6
> > and stayed that way until f16.(we realise that the focus shift of the
lens
> > could have been to our advantage at those apertures if we started out
with a
> > focus error).
> > Also suprising was that at f 8.0 and smaller the summicron image is
starting
> > to fade.
> > Lastly it shows that it is hard to find the testcard when handholding
the
> > camera.
> > On the page the first column is the stabilised noctilux the second is
the
> > same handheld(stopping at 1/8th)
> > and the last is the summicron.
> > The film used was Kodak E100 GX .
> > The  question is to get rid of focusing errors .can one set the lens
> > accurately at infinity just by putting the index on thatmarkingAnd if so
at
> > what distance would one have to put the target?
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/apekop/folder-6004.html
> > best regards
> > simon jessurun
> >
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>
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