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Subject: [Leica] arizona desert cemetary...II
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Fri Nov 10 12:33:53 2006
References: <41E104B6-8AE4-4393-B3C2-B5F976EF48EC@cox.net> <002901c704ff$8c0e0890$a302a8c0@ted> <6861F98C-7FD7-4B55-8200-5C67D98F017D@cox.net>

Steve

When the image is cropped it becomes much cleaner looking. But, even 
though it is cleaner it is not as real. An uncropped b&w version, at 
least to me, makes it better. Otherwise, its seems to take a graphic 
exercise appeal and lose it's "glimpse of reality" No matter what you 
decide, it is a real keeper. :-)

Walt

Steve Barbour wrote:

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> On Nov 10, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Ted Grant wrote:
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>> Steve Barbour showed revised versions:
>> Subject: [Leica] arizona desert cemetary...II
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>>> several people wisely suggested a crop, and I did this...
>>> also several wondered about which is best, color vs bw....
>>> so do I... what do you think ?
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross+flower.jpg.html
>>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross +flowerbw.jpg.html<<<<
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>> Steve a very interesting comparison indeed, both cropping and  colour 
>> vs. B&W.
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>> Pre-crop:
>> I "almost" like the more open feel about it and can say "I like it  
>> un-cropped". Almost! Even though I thought the crop would be better  
>> I'm now questioning it. But the right side is a distraction, so  
>> maybe if you had cropped it first and posted it cropped, then we'd  
>> not have the opportunity to see it both ways.
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>> Cropped:
>> But even with the crop done right on the mark, I now have this  
>> feeling it's jammed too tightly together. Unfortunately this  happens 
>> sometimes in photography. And I'd have to accept the  cropped version 
>> simply because the items on the right are without  question a 
>> distraction.
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>> I suppose if one were to put their "honesty as a photojournalist"  
>> aside for a moment and clonned over the disturbing pieces then the  
>> crammed space wouldn't be there and the picture would be fine.  
>> However, as photojournalists that's not our cup of tea.
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>> So it needs to either stay cropped, or maybe try to burn the right  
>> side down to a slightly darker level to cut the distraction. Not  
>> dark dark, but subtly.
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>> The conversion to B&W does absolutely nothing for the picture at  
>> all. This is due to the yellow flower playing such a strong part of  
>> the over all picture in colour that it doesn't have in B&W.  Actually 
>> it merely becomes a distracting blob of white waiting to  be "spotted 
>> out!"
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>> Given this situation is on a list there will be at least 809  
>> versions, 3 in agreement, and 3 who don't care. ;-)
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>> However, I still want to see the picture of you throwing the yellow  
>> flower precisely where it is for maximum effect of composition! ;-)
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> thanks Ted... I learned a lot from this exercise,
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> and one of the things I learned earlier,  never change the  
> composition to enhance the shot...
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> and if you do never admit it....Steve
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