Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/11/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Nov 10, 2006, at 1:34 PM, Walt Johnson wrote: > Steve > > When the image is cropped it becomes much cleaner looking. But, > even though it is cleaner it is not as real. An uncropped b&w > version, at least to me, makes it better. Otherwise, its seems to > take a graphic exercise appeal and lose it's "glimpse of reality" > No matter what you decide, it is a real keeper. :-) I see what you mean Walt...it's really a hard call....I lean to the cropped color version... but in bw I favor the whole scene... oh well, thanks for your thoughts..they are very valuable to me... here is another from the same place... for today, veteran's day... http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/pow.jpg.html a keeper... ? too simple and cryptic....? maybe I should post it separately... Steve > > Walt > > Steve Barbour wrote: > >> >> On Nov 10, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Ted Grant wrote: >> >>> Steve Barbour showed revised versions: >>> Subject: [Leica] arizona desert cemetary...II >>> >>> >>>> several people wisely suggested a crop, and I did this... >>>> also several wondered about which is best, color vs bw.... >>>> so do I... what do you think ? >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross+flower.jpg.html >>>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross >>>> +flowerbw.jpg.html<<<< >>> >>> >>> Steve a very interesting comparison indeed, both cropping and >>> colour vs. B&W. >>> >>> Pre-crop: >>> I "almost" like the more open feel about it and can say "I like >>> it un-cropped". Almost! Even though I thought the crop would be >>> better I'm now questioning it. But the right side is a >>> distraction, so maybe if you had cropped it first and posted it >>> cropped, then we'd not have the opportunity to see it both ways. >>> >>> Cropped: >>> But even with the crop done right on the mark, I now have this >>> feeling it's jammed too tightly together. Unfortunately this >>> happens sometimes in photography. And I'd have to accept the >>> cropped version simply because the items on the right are >>> without question a distraction. >>> >>> I suppose if one were to put their "honesty as a >>> photojournalist" aside for a moment and clonned over the >>> disturbing pieces then the crammed space wouldn't be there and >>> the picture would be fine. However, as photojournalists that's >>> not our cup of tea. >>> >>> So it needs to either stay cropped, or maybe try to burn the >>> right side down to a slightly darker level to cut the >>> distraction. Not dark dark, but subtly. >>> >>> The conversion to B&W does absolutely nothing for the picture at >>> all. This is due to the yellow flower playing such a strong part >>> of the over all picture in colour that it doesn't have in B&W. >>> Actually it merely becomes a distracting blob of white waiting >>> to be "spotted out!" >>> >>> Given this situation is on a list there will be at least 809 >>> versions, 3 in agreement, and 3 who don't care. ;-) >>> >>> However, I still want to see the picture of you throwing the >>> yellow flower precisely where it is for maximum effect of >>> composition! ;-) >> >> >> >> NOT... >> >> >> thanks Ted... I learned a lot from this exercise, >> >> >> and one of the things I learned earlier, never change the >> composition to enhance the shot... >> >> >> and if you do never admit it....Steve >> >>> >>> ted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information