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Subject: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)
Date: Wed Nov 14 15:53:13 2007
References: <111420071430.17702.473B069900080AF600004526219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com><000201c826cc$1d7af380$6401a8c0@asus930> <aed41d690711141348i3a6968daj8ba729772896dc1d@mail.gmail.com>

Jeffery, I knew that your 50mm lens discussion warning radar would catch 
this one. Now how about a shoot-athon, guys, with a
selection of your favourites? Steve is singing in my ear about the 50 asph 
lacking soul or music. I want to see quantifiable
objective comparisons here. Identify the specifics that appeal with a 
specific optic, guys. You can use words like resolution,
contrast, sharpness/unsharpness transition, depth impression, plasticity, 
flare resistance even bo-ke. Don't tell me anything about
steenkin' glow or feelings unless you can demonstrate what it is ;-) Smooth 
out of focus area can mean spherical aberration masking
the detail in the OOF. There you go, Hoppy has thrown down the gauntlet. Hey 
I think I am channelling Erwin Puts here! Does Erwin
ever read this list?

Important disclaimer. Yes I know that millions of beautiful photographs have 
been taken with a plethora of lens designs. Oh and no
offence meant to anyone, of course. I really would like to hear what you 
have to say and see some examples. Here are some of mine.
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/Vic/MV14.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/2shhcd

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/Vic/MV27.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/39kz8v

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/F2/J6.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/38x7x7

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/F2/Synchronised+swimmers.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/27ua35

This one on M8. I THINK it is my asph. I guess it could be Marty's Nocti, 
but I don't think so.
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/b_001/KI13.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/2nhp3g

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/1/a11.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/3d4qoj

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/1/a13.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/2o5x3n

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/1/a24.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/2lms3d

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/2/S02.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/2jsm5d

<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/2/S14.jpg.html>
http://tinyurl.com/3ap5fv


Cheers
Hoppy
The optic nazi.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...

I can't possibly come up with a "best 50" when each of them seems to excel
at SOMETHING. The perfect 50 might end up being like the proverbial "camel
is a horse designed by a committee".

If speed is not a concern, it's the 50/3.5 Heliar
If speed is a concern, it's the 50/1.4 Summilux (I admit to being partial to
the pre-asph).
If speed is only sort of a concern, it's the 50/2 Planar

And all of the other ones could be used to capture an award-winning shot
except maybe the 50/0.95 Canon (which I DON'T have).

Jeffery

On Nov 14, 2007 8:39 AM, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Oh he's shooting the non-asph Summilux for these ones. Made from old coke
> bottles, I think. But he has the asph version as well. I
> am constantly on a crusade to convince him that the asph is THE fifty to
> use. Jeffery may chime in here ;-)
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
>
> Hoppy,
>
> I'm not too sure Steve likes the 50 Asph Summilux that much.  I think he
> should just send it my way, I'll keep it warm for him.  ;-)
>
> Gene
>
> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" <
> hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: --------------
>
>
> > Number five at a gallop for me. The interaction by Iona MAKES the image.
> I might say that number one is more gently lit/exposed, however I stick 
> with my first choice. Maybe a quibble with them that the
highlight on granpa's head is blown as I see it here. Can
 you extract any detail there and burn in a little maybe? BTW that lens is 
gorgeous on the M8, but then you knew that.
> > Cheers
> > Hoppy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of
> > Steve Barbour
> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 10:10
> > To: Leica Users Group; LEG; MUG Users; LRF; A forum dedicated to the
> > Picture-A-Week project
> > Subject: [Leica] IMG Iona and grandpa Fitzgerald work...
> >
> > I need your input...
> >
> > I can 't decide which is the best single image here...
> >
> > it changes each time I look...
> >
> > so I would like to ask your opinion...which I greatly appreciate...
> >
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt1.jpg.html
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt3.jpg.html
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt4.jpg.html
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW2007/bikt5.jpg.html
> >
> >
> > M8 Summilux 50mm 1.4 non ASPH...(latest fw)
> >
> >
> > thanks for your thoughts,
> >
> > Steve
-- 
Jeffery L. Smith
New Orleans, LA

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