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Subject: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Mon Jan 28 11:17:12 2008
References: <C3C36FE2.275D7%bd@bdcolenphoto.com> <CA2D064D-62B4-46D9-9557-A1B79ECD8AAD@charter.net>

Did you every eat in his D.C. restaurant?

slobodan dimitrov wrote:
> It is, Lt. Colonel Nguyen Ngoc Loan.
>
> Photographers should leave the writing of history to historians, and 
> then quote them.
>
> Journalist, on the other hand, should leave analysis to historians, as 
> the also lack the foundational background to put two and two together.
> s.d.
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:41 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>
> Good Lord, Howard - What is so improbable that someone might shoot two
> people dying on approximately the same spot if the photographer was 
> crouched
> nearby, camera pointed toward the spot?
>
> I think what puzzles me the most about all this is not whether or not 
> it is
> real, but the seeming compulsion on the part of some to insist that it is
> not.
>
> How is it that Eddie Adams managed to push his shutter release at the
> precise instant the Gen. Lon's bullet entered the skull of the VC 
> captive?
> Was that execution staged for Adams? Was he complicit in it?
>
> How did Bob Jackson happen to be in precisely the right position to 
> get that
> astounding photo of Jack Ruby shooting Oswald? Was he tipped ahead 
> that the
> shooting would take place?
>
> I don't think anyone asks those questions, yet, if one believes that
> uncritical "acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is inadequate,
>> irresponsible journalism" is the only way to view the possibility 
>> that Capa
> shot - sorry - two people on the same spot, how can one deal with 
> those other
> two astounding coincidences?
>
> B. D.
>
>
> On 1/28/08 11:21 AM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
>
>> Howard
>>
>> I knew some good would come from my recent generosity in the collection
>> plate. Even the damn clouds are in identical formations. Too much
>> cogitation and too little evidence. Any one who has worked an interview
>> knows the ease of proving their original point of view. Especially, when
>> dealing with such antiquities. Where the hell are Scully and Mulder when
>> we need them? :-)
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> Howard Ritter wrote:
>>> Strange that the the writer's painstaking research and cogitation
>>> weren't accompanied by even a passing question about how ONE
>>> photographer happened to snap the shutter at the moments of the deaths
>>> of TWO different soldiers within a few minutes at the VERY SAME SPOT
>>> on a hillside. Not a word of skepticism on this point! Uncritical
>>> acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is inadequate,
>>> irresponsible journalism.
>>>
>>> To my mind, the second and lesser-known photograph is prima facie
>>> evidence of several iterations of a staging. Unfortunately, this piece
>>> does nothing to resolve the controversy.
>>>
>>> --howard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Tarek Charara wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was this essay posted here a few months ago:
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html>
>>>>
>>>> For whatever it's worth... :^)
>>>>
>>>> All the best from the south of France!
>>>>
>>>> Tarek
>>>
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