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Subject: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Mon Jan 28 11:31:11 2008

Unfortunately not. It was in Arlington, VA, right, or Falls Church...just
outside the city...I do know that Adams long-regretted the shot and the
grief it caused Loan in later years.


On 1/28/08 2:17 PM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:

> Did you every eat in his D.C. restaurant?
> 
> slobodan dimitrov wrote:
>> It is, Lt. Colonel Nguyen Ngoc Loan.
>> 
>> Photographers should leave the writing of history to historians, and
>> then quote them.
>> 
>> Journalist, on the other hand, should leave analysis to historians, as
>> the also lack the foundational background to put two and two together.
>> s.d.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:41 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>> 
>> Good Lord, Howard - What is so improbable that someone might shoot two
>> people dying on approximately the same spot if the photographer was
>> crouched
>> nearby, camera pointed toward the spot?
>> 
>> I think what puzzles me the most about all this is not whether or not
>> it is
>> real, but the seeming compulsion on the part of some to insist that it is
>> not.
>> 
>> How is it that Eddie Adams managed to push his shutter release at the
>> precise instant the Gen. Lon's bullet entered the skull of the VC
>> captive?
>> Was that execution staged for Adams? Was he complicit in it?
>> 
>> How did Bob Jackson happen to be in precisely the right position to
>> get that
>> astounding photo of Jack Ruby shooting Oswald? Was he tipped ahead
>> that the
>> shooting would take place?
>> 
>> I don't think anyone asks those questions, yet, if one believes that
>> uncritical "acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is inadequate,
>>> irresponsible journalism" is the only way to view the possibility
>>> that Capa
>> shot - sorry - two people on the same spot, how can one deal with
>> those other
>> two astounding coincidences?
>> 
>> B. D.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/28/08 11:21 AM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Howard
>>> 
>>> I knew some good would come from my recent generosity in the collection
>>> plate. Even the damn clouds are in identical formations. Too much
>>> cogitation and too little evidence. Any one who has worked an interview
>>> knows the ease of proving their original point of view. Especially, when
>>> dealing with such antiquities. Where the hell are Scully and Mulder when
>>> we need them? :-)
>>> 
>>> Walt
>>> 
>>> Howard Ritter wrote:
>>>> Strange that the the writer's painstaking research and cogitation
>>>> weren't accompanied by even a passing question about how ONE
>>>> photographer happened to snap the shutter at the moments of the deaths
>>>> of TWO different soldiers within a few minutes at the VERY SAME SPOT
>>>> on a hillside. Not a word of skepticism on this point! Uncritical
>>>> acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is inadequate,
>>>> irresponsible journalism.
>>>> 
>>>> To my mind, the second and lesser-known photograph is prima facie
>>>> evidence of several iterations of a staging. Unfortunately, this piece
>>>> does nothing to resolve the controversy.
>>>> 
>>>> --howard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 27, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Tarek Charara wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There was this essay posted here a few months ago:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html>
>>>>> 
>>>>> For whatever it's worth... :^)
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best from the south of France!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tarek
>>>> 
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