[Leica] It's a film camera! Rangefinder at that!

[dlridings at gmail.com (Daniel Ridings)]

Not really, Jerry. I mentioned the Moskva-5 and the Zeiss Ikon it was
a knock-off of:

http://www.cosmonet.org/camera/mosc_e.htm

Daniel

On Feb 2, 2008 7:26 PM, Jerry Lehrer <glehrer@san.rr.com> wrote:
> Jim und Daneel,
>
> You have forgotten the /ne plus ultra/ folder of all time; the Super
> Ikonta B.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> jim Nichols wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > Coupled RF's have been around for years on folders.  The old 4x5 Speed
> > Graphics had coupled Kalart RFs that connected to the focusing bed by
> > a folding arm.  As I recall, the Retina series of 35mm folders were
> > also coupled.
> >
> > Jim Nichols
> > Tullahoma, TN USA
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Ridings" <dlridings@gmail.com>
> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] It's a film camera! Rangefinder at that!
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 2, 2008 8:55 AM, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The linkage to the front, which looks to be relatively flimsy, I
> >>> assumed was just for retraction as on the folders I have here.
> >>
> >> Yes, it does look flimsy and that is what suggests, for me, that it is
> >> a rangefinder part rather than a part that is intended to lock and
> >> stabilize the extended lens.
> >>
> >> I'm
> >>> struggling to imagine how the coupled rangefinder you mention works.
> >>> Do you have a model number I can search on for one of the
> >>> originals?
> >>
> >> I think you can go after the Makina Plaubels. They'd probably be the
> >> easiest to find descriptions of.
> >>
> >> You can't see it unless you know what you are looking at:
> >>
> >> http://www.rus-camera.com/camera.php?page=other&camera=iskra
> >>
> >> But on the Iskra, with the camera in your hands ready to use, at the
> >> bottom left is an arm that goes back to the rangefinder. But you can't
> >> really see all of it, just a part that sticks out, because it goes
> >> under the bellows instead of over.
> >>
> >> I hope they don't waste money on developing "A" exposure for this. A
> >> reliable shutter and aperture is enough.
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >>
> >>> Regarding the metering, look at the dial on top nearest the
> >>> viewfinder. It looks to have provision for ISO rating and also an A
> >>> setting? A leaf shutter, as you say, ruins my TTL theory. Any non
> >>> TTL metering implies a linkage, fascinating.
> >>> Off this topic, I note Fuji's choice in very Nordic Booth babes in
> >>> the article! Oh and no less than three new DSLRs from Sony.
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Geoff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of
> >>>
> >>> Daniel Ridings
> >>> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 17:30
> >>> To: Leica Users Group
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] It's a film camera! Rangefinder at that!
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 2, 2008 8:22 AM, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >>> > Richard, I hadn't looked closely enough. It is a rangefinder! I
> >>> see no
> >>> > possible way this could be linked to the (tabbed) focus ring with
> >>> a > folding bellows in between.
> >>>
> >>> You see that stabilizing arm extending from the body out to the lens
> >>> head? It might be able to slide in and out, thus pushing a
> >>> rangefinder mechanism here and there.
> >>>
> >>> > The old originals of course were just focussed by guess applied to
> >>> the
> >>> > focus ring distance scale manually.
> >>>
> >>> No, the Agfa's (later a Commie Iskra model), Zeiss-Ikon's and others
> >>> had coupled rangefinders.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > For exposure control I would guess that the lens is set exactly as
> >>> per
> >>> > an M, then the shutter speed is adjusted via the dial on top
> >>> (complete > with A setting). An Auto setting implies that the metering
> >>> is TTL!
> >>>
> >>> Who needs an exposure meter on one of these? I doubt seriously that
> >>> it can be TTL. That would be assuming it has a focal plane
> >>> shutter and it obviously has a leaf shutter. They open and close
> >>> when you take the shot, so they are not letting any light through
> >>> until then. It would be over-kill to have TTL with such a mechanism.
> >>>
> >>> Daniel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _
>
>
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