Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/17

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Subject: [Leica] Very OT: Cold Weather
From: marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small)
Date: Sat Jan 17 07:07:31 2009
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At 04:31 AM 1/17/2009, PHC wrote:

 >Neoprene is not ideal, but with breathable areas the Barbour gloves
 >work pretty well for me. Not in Arctic conditions though! Not that
 >I've ever tried. -20C is the lowest I've known.

I have a pair of leather mittens with a fur 
lining which are great for hand-warming in cold 
conditions but which, of course, are not suitable 
for photography.  (I started to say, "only 
suitable for digital photography but then some 
wise instinct reminded me that very few of the 
LUG folks enjoy a sense of humor, so it would be 
best to desist from such a crack.)  The US Army's 
shell gloves (a thin leather outer with a wool 
olive-green inner part) are REALLY good 
cold-weather protection though they are not, of course, water-proof.

"-20C" is, for the USians in our midst, is only 
about -5 degrees Fahrenheit.  In January, 1961, I 
joined the Boy Scouts at the order of my father, 
a recovering Eagle Scout, and we went camping a 
week later in central Pennsylvania.  It hit forty 
below, Fahrenheit, in the still air, and I, of 
course, the fat and clumsy kid, fell into the 
creek.  Wow!  I later learned how to camp in such 
conditions and how to stay really warm in really 
cold conditions:  after all, those Cave guys 
weren't so dumb!  If you want to camp cold, camp 
when there has been a cold snap and snow, and 
then the weather warms, and you end up with 
32-degree F (0C) freezing rain.  You have to be 
really cautious to ensure comfort in that case!

My son lives in Wasilla, Alaska, a bit north of 
Anchorage.  He has been amused by the fixation in 
the lower 48 with this "cold" weather.  They have 
had several weeks of -20F (roughly, -30C) daily 
highs.  Their weather is now warming up to around 
zero (-18C), which means they will now have snow 
again:  really cold air cannot hold much 
moisture, so the temperature has to rise to get 
snow.  Global warming, indeed!  Fairbanks had its 
earliest snowfall in recorded history this 
year.  I keep reminding Ian that Nina Tottenberg 
or someone else on NPR keeps moaning that those 
poor Polar Bears are going to have to leave that 
sauna into which the Arctic Ocean is turning and 
thus will romp, en masse, to Anchorage to find 
malls and theaters with air condiioners, along 
with all that pop-corn to eat.  He assures me 
that this is not happening.   And he works on the North Slope.

Marc


msmall@aya.yale.edu
Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!



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