Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/02/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Mark, there -may- be other people who have the same opinion as you Mark but you are the only one who has written it on the LUG several times a week for years ;-) I don't think any of us here have missed your opinion on this. Try limiting the comment to, say, once every 3 months to inform new members perhaps? Sorry to be so exasperated, Frank ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Friday, 11 February, 2011 17:36:47 Subject: Re: [Leica] More new Fuji X100 info Well Frank !the entire photographic community and industry is pretty much in on it as well. Most pro's wound not be caught dead with a cropped camera this is not a big secret and not my particular quirky opinion. You've said in the past format does not matter in digital as it does in film but I think on that opinion you are out standing alone in the field as we frankly save for our 40 to 60 thousand dollar medium format digital systems or top of the line full frame systems. Full frame cameras are marketed as pro cameras and cropped camera are marketed as amateur lines. This quirky fact is becoming quite known by every shulb putting in hours behind a camera counter and every dad coming into the store to get a camera to get his kids opening their holiday presents. While in the old days a lumbering Nikon F2 with motor drive weighting 5 pounds used the same film as a Barnack IIIA the format was always the same and the results could be the same as you viewed a 16x20 end result; 24x36mm's was the format so one did not have to pay much attention. If you wanted a compact camera your end result really was not going to necessarily suffer, Now smaller cameras can have larger formats. Nowadays the issue is clouded my megapixels and you do have to pay attention.. MP's. A credit card camera can have more than your point and shoot or full sized older DSLR. -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ mark at rabinergroup.com Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:35:04 +0000 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] More new Fuji X100 info > > Well Mark I have read this opinion many hundreds of times in the last few > years. > > But every time it was you who wrote it ;-) > > FD > > On 10 Feb, 2011, at 19:24, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> The value perception of cropped camera systems is going to plummet solidly >> in a very few years if not sooner. If you want a return on your investment >> you might not get it like you'd expect to with much gear you get now. >> If you got an M8 which you can get now I think for quite cheap despite >> all >> the problems involved with it all the glass you accumulated for that >> camera >> would then be usable on the M9 or any full frame camera Leica comes up >> with. >> I'd go that route then. >> I'm not seeing teachers in schools telling their students to get a Fuji >> X100. They'd be telling them to invest in a system which can be upgraded >> seriously. The Fuji X100 for its existence (I give it four years) will be >> a >> play toy for people with available cash who like to buy and sell photo >> gear. >> It won't be used much by people taking a potentially serious interest in >> street or any other kind of photography. Its a here today gone tomorrow >> special. Yes very retro. The lack of distance scales on the lenses could >> be >> thought of as a dead give away. As is looking at examples of 4000 across >> pixel images which measure 2 inches across your computer monitor and cant >> be >> viewed larger. >> It's an emperors new clothes camera system. We all know deep inside its a >> waste of our time and resources. Its not about photography It's about >> playing with new toys. >> >> When we started out decades back with an M2 or a Nikkormat the film it >> shot >> was still 36mm's across just like all the big boy cameras and all the >> glass >> we got could be used on our later big boy bodies. >> Its good to have later bodies in mind. >> >> -------------------- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photography > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information