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Subject: [Leica] My last aftermarket battery just died
From: john.nebel at csdco.com (John Nebel)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:52:24 -0600
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Boeing wishes it had better batteries!

On 3/14/13 8:25 PM, Richard Man wrote:
> I am speaking from real knowledge here: modern batteries do have
> protection, embedded processors etc. It's true that some no-name brands
> come from the same factories. It's also true that unscrupulous
> manufacturers would wholesale copy expensive batteries, think xerox copy
> but in the manufacturing sense and sell them much cheaper. They may work as
> well, or they may not, depending on how good the copy is.
>
> I usually do not need more than 2 batteries, no matter how hard I shoot. So
> I have 3, since I consistently misplace one of them.
>
> Since my camera is multi-thousands, the battery cost is the least of it, so
> I buy Leica's batteries. One less thing to worry about. None of them has
> died.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> I know its wrong but think of the battery as part of the "motor" of the
>> camera. I know its wrong but I wonder if its wall wrong. There may be a
>> tiny
>> thread of insane non sensible truth to it.
>>
>> Its always what you don't think.
>>
>> That's my motto.
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/13 7:09 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is one of those long standing discussions. Some folks report good
>>> experience with the much cheaper alternates and others not.
>>> In this case Frank bought twelve and they have all died within two years.
>>> Some are prepared to pay much more for the Leica branded ones  because
>>> their assessment is that they should be more reliable and the extra is
>>> acceptable for a 6 or $7000.camera and their photography That doesn't
>> make
>>> them suckers.
>>> Everyone will do their own sums on cost/performance. Why not.
>>>
>>> One of my originals (I have 3 in total) is about five years old, one
>> about
>>> four and one three (new with my M9). All continue to work fine. Actually
>>> Leica Camera suggests that 3 years is a reasonable life before
>> replacement
>>> is recommended.
>>> Lower output from old or non-genuine items was the factor that Leica
>> Camera
>>> identified as contributing to card problems(write fails) with the M9,
>> which
>>> is why the latest M9 firmware was introduced.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
>>> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 March 2013 07:39, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Except that more often than not, the aftermarket batteries are made at
>>>> exactly the same factory as the original ones. As someone said, a
>> sucker is
>>>> born every day.
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> YNWA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fro my Leica digital I used a Leica battery.
>>>>> Fro my Nikon D whatever I used Nikon batteries.
>>>>> I can tell you when the time ever comes for me to buy a seven thousand
>>>>> dollar camera the last thing I'm going to do is go shopping for cheap
>>>> third
>>>>> party batteries. I'll blow a few more hundred and get a couple more
>>>>> batteries with a red dot on it.
>>>>> This thread has come on this list several times and every seeing time
>> the
>>>>> only person who seemed to hold this opinion was me.
>>>>> Now I am feeling vindicated up the yin yang for the tables to have been
>>>>> turned.
>>>>> The only way I've not won out is the fact that using the cheap
>> batteries
>>>> do
>>>>> not seemed to have ruined any cameras. I'd have thought there was a
>> good
>>>>> chance that might happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read a book on batteries in photography once it was by the Aaton
>>>> company
>>>>> head engineer or guy own owned the company or both..
>>>>> A French company who made motion picture cameras and batteries.
>>>>> Gave me a healthy respect for them. But since then the landscape has
>>>>> changed. Its strewn with dead cheap batteries for one. ...Seeping toxic
>>>>> waste into the top soil or water underneath.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I like expensive batteries. Silver ones. Light. Lith?
>>>>> I say "give me the most expensive battery you got" then charge me
>> double!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photography
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>
>>
>>
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