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Subject: [Leica] shooting the M240
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 23:22:38 -0400

I thought I was reading that should the Maestro processor from the S
incorporated into the M then that would be the next incremental thing.
Sorry! I get it right half the time!


On 5/7/14 11:14 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes it is Mark. Was I unclear? The issue as I understand it is the design
> decisions in the electronics as far as how much information can be
> processed in how much time for movie functions.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 8 May 2014 13:06, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> This article seems to be saying the Maestro processor is already in the M.
>> Unless my dyslexia is getting the better of me again.
>> http://www.the.me/the-leica-m-max-sensor-explained/
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/7/14 5:48 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Steve you understand why it is physically impossible for an R lens to
>> work
>>> with the RF system?
>>> One small fix that may assist is that I know of some people who have
>>> attached a small 'bump' (a stick-on plastic hemispherical dot) to the
>>> activation button. That evidently makes it much more convenient to
>> actuate.
>>> George, to address your question, I have no knowledge at all of what the
>>> next generation of Leica cameras may bring but I would guess that the T
>>> system may be a precursor. The track record is for newer
>>> capabilities/technology to be progressively implemented. For example the
>>> Maestro processor from the S incorporated into the M.
>>> Since this is entirely speculative discussion, I think that the M system
>>> will continue optimised for the M lenses above all else for as long as it
>>> is their most successful line. I don't think that there will ever be
>>> another based on manual focus lenses at all (but can't see why the lenses
>>> won't be usable with adapters). I will be unsurprised if the S System
>> does
>>> not evolve to use one of the newest generation of CMOS sensors. I don't
>>> believe that there is any prospect of an R11 or 12 or whatever.
>>> 
>>> That is more than enough idle speculation and chitchat on the subject
>> from
>>> me. I have 500 new frames from yesterday's shoot, another shoot in a few
>>> days, another competition one in 10 days, a remaining (unpaid) corporate
>>> job which has grown in complexity and demanding nature after the last
>> two I
>>> just did and I haven't even finished editing some previous shoots from
>> last
>>> September forward!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 May 2014 06:55, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Steve, so in that mode, you shouldn't need to start focus peaking
>> working
>>>>> by pressing the button every time.
>>>>> An adapted lens is one where there is no helical movement to operate
>> the
>>>>> roller/cam RF system. For example if you used an R adapter. I should
>> have
>>>>> been clearer though. I mean that it won't work automatically. You will
>>>> need
>>>>> to press the button to start it.
>>>> 
>>>> exactly, M lenses will work as you say, but R lenses require the button
>> be
>>>> pushed each time....
>>>> 
>>>> ***it is rather sad that R lenses even with Leica's own adapter, R to M,
>>>> will not operate like M lenses, and the fine Oly VF4 EVF apparantly will
>>>> not be functional like the Oly VF2.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I know the VF4 won't work due to bandwidth limitations (how
>>>> much
>>>>> data can be processed). That is only a guess though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 May 2014 06:31, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I shall have to have a play as I have very seldom used focus peaking
>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> initially experimenting. Off the top of my head  when set to
>> automatic
>>>> it
>>>>>>> should start working as soon as you move the focus ring.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That will not work
>>>>>>> on adapted lenses though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> what is an adapted lens?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As far as I am aware the VF4 is not going to be compatible when we
>> get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> next firmware. The very impressive Visoflex unit for the T definitely
>>>>>>> cannot be used on the M.  In that instance there is no alternative
>>>>>> Olympus
>>>>>>> branded version either of course.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The VF2 works, why not  get the VF4 working as well, as it's a much
>>>> better
>>>>>> viewfinder?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8 May 2014 05:56, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not sure what the issue is? If (you and) the subject has not moved
>> it
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> still be in focus, if not then you need to re-focus in which case
>> the
>>>>>>>> magnification will cut in....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am using the M240 in advanced mode (EVF 4) with focus peaking in
>>>> red.
>>>>>>>> Coming to terms with the controls and the menu, for the shooting I
>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do, I have a question remaining re the focus peaking setup. It seems
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>> must reset the camera controls for each photo, which begins with
>>>>>> depressing
>>>>>>>> the button upper right front.  Is there some way to program the
>> camera
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> repetitively shoot in this way, ie avoiding a reset for each shot ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The images I obtain are terrific, well focussed, with almost a
>> perfect
>>>>>> hit
>>>>>>>> rate, even with the lens wide open,  but too much time is required
>> to
>>>>>> reset
>>>>>>>> the camera, for each and every shot.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Many thanks for your ongoing assistance.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>> 
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