[Leica] shooting the M240

[hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)]

Steve I need to be working sorry so I can't participate much more for the
moment.
My view is that the M is designed to be a very high quality RF camera for
making photographs using the extant legacy system.
The live view and movie functionality are by-products of the
sensor/electronics design, or bonus capabilities if you like. So is the
ability to adapt other lens systems such as the defunct R system.
Each new M digital has had much more processing power and had to deal with
much more data than its predecessor.
In the case of the Maestro processor unit in the S and the M. It actually
has different sections switched on if you like for different capabilities.
In the S it needs to deal with very large DNG files but only about 2 a
second and no video or audio or liveview.
In the M of course it needs all of those capabilities. The maximum
resolution/quality/format/compression of the data stream for that movie
function  is set to what the electronics can cope with. The data volume
that you need for the higher resolution Olympus branded VF4 (of which there
is no Leica branded version) is similarly too large as I understand it.
This is all getting above my pay grade ;-) just another user's
understanding/opinion.


On Thursday, 8 May 2014, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> I thought I was reading that should the Maestro processor from the S
> incorporated into the M then that would be the next incremental thing.
> Sorry! I get it right half the time!
>
>
> On 5/7/14 11:14 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes it is Mark. Was I unclear? The issue as I understand it is the design
> > decisions in the electronics as far as how much information can be
> > processed in how much time for movie functions.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2014 13:06, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This article seems to be saying the Maestro processor is already in the
> M.
> >> Unless my dyslexia is getting the better of me again.
> >> http://www.the.me/the-leica-m-max-sensor-explained/
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/7/14 5:48 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Steve you understand why it is physically impossible for an R lens to
> >> work
> >>> with the RF system?
> >>> One small fix that may assist is that I know of some people who have
> >>> attached a small 'bump' (a stick-on plastic hemispherical dot) to the
> >>> activation button. That evidently makes it much more convenient to
> >> actuate.
> >>> George, to address your question, I have no knowledge at all of what
> the
> >>> next generation of Leica cameras may bring but I would guess that the T
> >>> system may be a precursor. The track record is for newer
> >>> capabilities/technology to be progressively implemented. For example
> the
> >>> Maestro processor from the S incorporated into the M.
> >>> Since this is entirely speculative discussion, I think that the M
> system
> >>> will continue optimised for the M lenses above all else for as long as
> it
> >>> is their most successful line. I don't think that there will ever be
> >>> another based on manual focus lenses at all (but can't see why the
> lenses
> >>> won't be usable with adapters). I will be unsurprised if the S System
> >> does
> >>> not evolve to use one of the newest generation of CMOS sensors. I don't
> >>> believe that there is any prospect of an R11 or 12 or whatever.
> >>>
> >>> That is more than enough idle speculation and chitchat on the subject
> >> from
> >>> me. I have 500 new frames from yesterday's shoot, another shoot in a
> few
> >>> days, another competition one in 10 days, a remaining (unpaid)
> corporate
> >>> job which has grown in complexity and demanding nature after the last
> >> two I
> >>> just did and I haven't even finished editing some previous shoots from
> >> last
> >>> September forward!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Geoff
> >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8 May 2014 06:55, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Steve, so in that mode, you shouldn't need to start focus peaking
> >> working
> >>>>> by pressing the button every time.
> >>>>> An adapted lens is one where there is no helical movement to operate
> >> the
> >>>>> roller/cam RF system. For example if you used an R adapter. I should
> >> have
> >>>>> been clearer though. I mean that it won't work automatically. You
> will
> >>>> need
> >>>>> to press the button to start it.
> >>>>
> >>>> exactly, M lenses will work as you say, but R lenses require the
> button
> >> be
> >>>> pushed each time....
> >>>>
> >>>> ***it is rather sad that R lenses even with Leica's own adapter, R to
> M,
> >>>> will not operate like M lenses, and the fine Oly VF4 EVF apparantly
> will
> >>>> not be functional like