[Leica] Forwarded for DC

["Richard W. Hemingway" <n5xrd@telepath.com>]

 Luggers,

I am forwarding this for Don Chatterton

Dick Hemingway
Norman, OK

>Mr. Gonzales
>
>As I posted a reply last evening to  YOUR personal attack, which YOU
>started on last week, late last night, and again last evening, you must
>have stayed up all night composing this new barrage.
>
>You stated:
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>You wrote ">You have ignored my posts wholesale while you were the one who
>decided that this was the forum for discussing these specific problems.
>I've made VERY clear why I didn't feel that a refund was an acceptable
>resolution. If you would have the maturity to answer
>without temeritous condescention, and the honesty to deal with my concerns
>on an equal level as others here fully expect of you,"<
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>REPLY: When I first heard about these attacks, which I knew nothing about,
>last week,  I responded Monday without using anyone's names, and
>apologizing to anyone who ever felt that either I, or any of my staff had
>ever offended them  You immediately attacked me again, stated that I had
>accused you of of saying things about you in that response (with no
>personalities involved). I replied that you should re- read my reply, since
>you were putting words in my mouth. which I did NOT say.
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>Then you continued:
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>>As I said before, there is no good reason, while others go to extreme
>>lengths in
>>recommendng you, for me to remain quiet<
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>REPLY: WHO IS GOING TO EXTREME MEASURES ?
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>>You offered me nothing for my time, my trouble or my satisfaction.<
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>REPLY: What time or trouble??? Making a phone call?  What is your time
>worth? Never heard of any firm paying "DAMAGES" and "EMOTIONAL DISTRESS"
>claims because the customer was not happy  (Not even Paula Jones got them).
>You just send it back for a refund, which you received. Every time you
>don't get your way, do you go ballistic?
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>>You've characterized me as an upstart,<  >In short, you've gone beyond the
>>bounds of decency, while enlisting the bile of minions, to amplify an
>>already aggressive plan of action derisive of me personally.<
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>REPLY: I did NOT refer to you as an "upstart" ( there you go again). In
>fact, I never even heard of you before all this, nor I have any feelings or
>anamosity toward you
>.
>As to your claims of "Going beyond the "bounds of decency", and" enlisting
>the bile of minions " Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
>
>As to "to amplify an already aggressive plan of action derisive of me
>personally", whoa...it is YOU who attacked me personally...You've got it
>backward again.I am just responding to your smears, exaggerations and
>accusations. I don't have any "plan"to be "derisive" of you. In fact , I
>wish you would just go "get a life".

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>>when others recommend you as a dealer to buy from, in order to save
>>themselves undue
>>loss of time in their finite lifetimes < and>If you see bile in that
criticism<
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>REPLY: I'm sorry, but you exhibit more hate and venom than anyone I have
>ever met. You can keep smearing us on LUG, but I will not take the time to
>respond again. It is not what I deem proper for a discussion about what we
>should be about. Leica is a wonderful instrument, that we derive lots of
>joy and satisfaction from. We all join here, in LHSA and other
>organizations, for fun, relaxation, enjoyment, comraderie, education and
>sharing knowledge.
>
>I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE PROPER FORUM TO CONTINUE A  ONE MAN VENDETA
>OF HATE. You have other organizations, such as the Arian Nations of Idaho
>and the KKK  for pursuits like that.
>
>If  your intention is to extort money from us for your "time and emotional
>distress" (trouble and satisfaction), or you will keep attacking us, you've
>got the wrong guy.
>
> Don
>>
>>Sure, shoot it to me!!!
>>
>>
>>>Another Friday, and that guy goes off again
>>>
>>>Tried answering it, but only printed 1/2 again...can't figure it out.
>>>
>>>Could I impse on you to transmit again for me?
>>>
>>>Thanks...Do
>>
>>BTW   I bought an M6 from you eight years ago and as I now recall it had a
>>ding on it.  You have never made it right.  Of course I no longer have the
>>camera - nor did I tell you about it.  but you haven't done right by me!!!
>>I shall post this on the LUG
>>
>>Richard (Gonzales) Hemingway
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