Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/02/28

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Feedback sought on Colour Heads & Analysers
From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@istar.ca>
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 00:18:00 -0400

Jim:

I have a colorstar 2000 and found that with typical slides, it is hard to
use it to analyse the colour.  For example, a colour analzer must be zeroed
for a certain tone.  In portraits, you would pick a fleash tone.  In the
ideal situation, you would have a grey card in the image to read off.  But
life is not that simple.  In a typical scenic, where do you find the grey
tone, or the white tone, or the flesh tone that you set the analzer to?  I
find using my normal filter pack and the exposure calculation of the
colorstar gets me there within one test print.

I gave Akhil the simple answer that he did not need one because he is
probably best to start out simple and get the anayzer later if he thinks he
needs it.  Most people do not go to the bother of making a mask and
figuring out contrast ratios when they are beginners.  When was the last
time you did a contrast mask for Ilfochome prints.?  I myself have never
done it.  When was the last time you made an Ilfochrome print?  I did a few
weeks ago.  

As far as I know, Ilfochrome only comes in regular and medium contrast, but
I may be wrong. All I buy is the medium contrast.  I find slightly
underexposed slide in a bracketed series seem to print the best on this
medium contrast Ilfochrome.  The old Cibachrome was indeed too contrasty
for most slides without masking.  Is the Kodak masking film still
available?  Don't you need a pin registered carrier to use it?

Jim, you must remember in photography there is always more than one way to
solve a problem.  My father always taught me that when confronted with a
problem in life, you better have more than one solution to it or you have
not thought of the problem hard enough.  I was just giving Akhil another
solution to use (Kodak clour print viewing filters) other than a colour
analyzer.

Regards,

Robert

At 07:42 PM 2/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
>The reason for an analyzer (one that can be used as a "densitometer", 3000,
>5100, 6000) is that the brightness ratio can be read so that mask (if
>needed) and paper type (Ilfochrome comes in contrast grades) can be easily
>determined. What density to make the mask (if you need one) can be
>determined. It also allows you to make white, white, without test strips.
>If you want it that way.
>
>Jim
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>At 11:03 PM 2/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Akhil:
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>>2) You don't need a colour analzer for Ilfochrome.  Start with the base
>>filteration printed on the package of paper and do a test strip for
>>exposure.  The use Kodak colour viewing filters to figure out the proper
>>filtration.  Ilfochrome had a much wider lattitude for filtration.  You
>>move in steps of 10cc's and the print viewing filters are probably the best
>>choice.  Once you have you base filtration for the film and enlarger you
>>usually use, it needs very little adjustment.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Robert
>>
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