Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/04

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Subject: Re: [Leica] (no Leica) Schwartza Fenza?
From: "Dan Post" <dwpost@email.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:50:23 -0400

Paul-
I think it is just a matter of personal style. I've done it, but then I've
matted stuff on black with white overmattes, white on white, and black on
black.
I think it just depends on how you want your work to be seen. If it is a
requirement of a particular job, so be it.

I will admit, despite the obvious poke at the 'I used the whole thing
bravado', that I do get a kick out of having a negative that requires no
cropping! It only worked with homemade/handcut mattes as until recently, you
could get all the 8x10 mattes you wanted, but one cut to 8x12 was awfully
hard to find.
The 'full frame' printing may be coming back as I have noticed a larger
selection of 8x12 cut mattes for 16x22 frames, and 20x30 frames, at the
local markets....
Dan
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Schiemer <schiemer@magicnet.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 9:42 AM
Subject: [Leica] (no Leica) Schwartza Fenza?


> Went to an opening last night for two photographers; a portraitist and the
> other urban landscapes (both artists quite successful).
> Each and every image printed and hung on the wall had the 'frame' of the
> negative printed and revealed as a component of the finished (matted)
work.
>
> Was wondering what y'all think about the habit of including the 'black
> edge'.
>
> Personally; it's noise and lends absolutely nothing to the expression
being
> made (other than to flaunt the 'I used the whole thing' bravado to other
> photographers). [Although I will admit to having done it once or twice
> myself; http://users.aol.com/pschiemer/evpic.html ]
>
> I asked one of the photographers (Tom Jimison) about the 'fence'. He
> volunteered it was something he felt was required as a historical
> documentary of our society. He was once commissioned to chronicle
> architecture in New Orleans and inclusion of the frame information was
part
> of the project. But, is it art?
>
> no archive