Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/01/25

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Ted Grant's Ravings
From: "Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:08:21 -0800

Here, here.  I am with you Bob. I would love a whizbang M7 with a proper
film loading system, perhaps even an autoloading system.  Like you I do not
collect, I use cameras.

Peter K

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bedwell [mailto:rlb@triad.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:23 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Ted Grant's Ravings


Don't understand....why does a new Leica  electronic M camera have to be an
entry level model.     If the M camera is the profitable end of Leica why
shouldn't a new electronic M be based on a successful format.  Seems to me
that an "entry model" would surely be a way to non-acceptance.

I know that it is difficult to believe that there are some of us that would
welcome an electronic model.  It doesn't mean that it would replace what we
have.

Bob



- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@islandnet.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Ted Grant's Ravings


> Stephen Gandy wrote:
>
> >Ted I agree with most of what you say, but this is hardly an "either or"
> >world.   When Leica does make some sort of major M6 update, it's hard to
> >believe today's mechanical M6 would be discontinued.   Why not both
> >cameras in the Leica lineup ?
> >
> >However something is broken, but it's not the camera -- it's the lack of
black
> >ink in Solms.
>
> <<< The "Ain't broke and needs no fixin'!" argument at Leica makes no
sense
> to me when the little boat is slowly sinking in a sea of red ink.
> Something has to be done, and it needs to work.>>>
>
> Hi Stephen,
> Quite right! The profit of the company, like the rest of us who run our
> own, has to make money, period!  Isn't that why we own our own business?
> And that's one of the facts of economic life.
>
> And Solms isn't running a "Leica Benevolent Society" there has to be
profit
> for share holders.
>
> And I agree with you, they should have some kind of "entry level body."
> Wasn't the RE supposed to be an entry body to get people into the R
camera?
>
> Who knows, maybe as we write, Leica has a model to challenge the new
> rangefinder cameras coming to market, but have just kept lips tight so
they
> can come on with a major bang and bump the upstarts out of the way. (to be
> seen to be believed)
>
> A company can go on so long in the red, no matter how fine the product is,
> when eventually someone pulls the plug.  Be a shame if that happens. But
> I'm always trying to think positive and that they'll see the light, fool
> everyone, and come out with an interesting economical new M lens camera.
>
> Only time will tell.
>
> ted
>
> Ted Grant
> This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
> http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
>
>