Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/07/26

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Scanning
From: "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:02:44 +0200
References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010725235419.00a03150@pop.2alpha.net>

Peter Klein writes:

> Hear ye, hear ye, all ye good folks who scan
> black and white *film*.  Do you use "real" B&W
> or chromagenic film?

I scan mostly "real" B&W films, mainly because I like the way they respond to
light.  Also, C-41 black-and-white films are routinely ruined by the fact that
most labs cannot seem to develop C-41 without covering every image with
scratches.  It takes hours to remove scratches in Photoshop, and you still don't
get a completely clean image, and this is such a serious problem that it negates
any advantage of C-41 B&W.  There's not much point in getting the fine grain of
an XP2 or Portra B&W if scratches the size of an undersea telephone cable are
crossing the image in every direction.

> I'm particularly interested in people who use
> film scanners and real black-and-white.

I scan mostly Tri-X, Technical Pan, and T-Max.

> Have you had problems with grain aliasing?

I've never paid any attention.  Grain is something that interferes with the
image for me.  I tolerate it in Tri-X because Tri-X responds so nicely to light
overall, but if it were not there at all, that would be fine with me.  The fact
that the grain is large enough to be visible is bad enough; whether it is
"aliased" or not doesn't change anything for me.

> If so, what scanner do you use, what's its
> resolution, and what do you do about the aliasing?

LS-2000, 2700 dpi, and I don't do anything about the aliasing (I don't even know
if it is really there).

> Defocus?  Scan at lower resolution?  Limit the
> size of your prints?

If I don't want the grain, I shoot a film that doesn't have visible grain.
Technical Pan is an obvious choice, although it is slow.  Usually Tri-X grain is
not too obtrusive in full-frame images, so I don't mind, but if I need to see
fine details, or crop and enlarge, something else is needed.

In reply to: Message from Peter Klein <pklein@2alpha.net> ([Leica] Scanning)