RE: [Leica] Is the issue of camera noise over-rated? - What are your quietest cameras?

[JP M <skeenut@yahoo.com>]

My point exactly.  The M6 is not the quietest, but it
is very quiet.  It also has a slew of other features
that make it appropiate for stealthy activities.  But
not all.
The R35 is smaller, the QL-17 is more expendable, the
TLR can be held in a peculiar way that disarms or
misdirects people, the Mamiya gives the best image
(ouch, look out, INCOMING!) and the iiif is really
fun.
Jeff
- --- bdcolen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> But the problem here is that you've put together
> that list of cameras
> assuming that the most important criterion is lack
> of noise. None of
> those cameras, other than perhaps the Canon and the
> Rollei 35, is
> vaguely comparable in terms of features and
> usefulness under different
> photographic circumstances. Do you need 2 1/4, or
> 35? Do you need
> interchangeable lenses, or will fixed lens do? Do
> you have a hand-held
> meter, or do you want a built in? Do you need to use
> a focusable wide
> angle?  I don't want to use a Mamyia 7 when what I
> need is an M6. And
> this really gets to my point - silence is not,
> except under very special
> circumstances, as much of an issue as we think it
> is, and it is
> certainly less of an issue than the things I've
> mentioned above....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On
> Behalf Of JP M
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:51 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Is the issue of camera noise
> over-rated? - What are
> your quietest cameras?
> 
> 
> The M6 certaintly is a quiet camera, much more
> stealthy than any reflex I've ever owned.
> However, if near silence were the major criteria by
> which I was choosing what camera to use, well here's
> my list in decending order of "quiet-ness":
> 1.  Mamiya 6
> 2.  Rolleiflex 2.8F
> 3.  Canon QL-17
> 3.  Rollei 35S
> 4.  IIIf
> 5.  M6
> --- Austin Franklin <darkroom@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > B.D.,
> > 
> > > Yes, the unobtrusiveness of the Ms is great. But
> > first off, they are not
> > > nearly as silent as we think they are. Yes, if
> > there is any kind of
> > > background noise, the "click" disappears - but
> so
> > does the whine of a
> > > single SLR.
> > 
> > Having photographed many young children for quite
> a
> > few years now, I find
> > that ANY of the SLRs I have used can be very
> > distracting, and the M never,
> > and I mean never, gets noticed when I take the
> > picture.  I can see, at best,
> > a little flinch subsequent to the firing of the
> SLR,
> > but never see that with
> > the Leica.  Of course, this is very situation
> > dependant...at a kid's
> > birthday party, you could shoot with a Howitzer,
> and
> > not be noticed.
> > 
> > > Second, what is really important is the way the
> > photographer works, the
> > > way he or she relates to the subject, and not
> the
> > decibel level of the
> > > camera."
> > 
> > Hum.  That's true in some, but not all,
> situations.
> > In fact, with the M,
> > I've had some people actually ask if I've taken
> the
> > picture!  I never get
> > that with any of the SLRs I have!
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Austin
> > 
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