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Subject: Re: [Leica] Some may find this of interest! ...... NO IT'S BULL SHIT!
From: "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:06:51 -0500
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Yes, Ted,

I have been of the opinion for some time that anything that promotes an
erection must have some redeeming social value.

Don R.
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Some may find this of interest! ...... NO IT'S BULL
SHIT!


> Do you guys and gals realize this stuff is a great big crock of bull shit!
I
> apologize to the ladies for my use of BS!
>
> But in reality, do you people have any idea how stupid and Mickey mouse
you
> sound to the rest of the world?
>
> After all, this is an international list, not some hick town group of USA
> people who think the world revolves around the values of the USA!
>
> Get real, despite what your President may think, the world has no interest
> in Bob Shell and his unfortunate situation,  which none of you have the
> ultimate details to  make any comments, regardless of the unfortunate out
> come of this situation. Right or wrong!
>
> Look if  you want something worth discussing that has some meaning and
> thought, try this for a moment.
> =======================
>
> The value of our photography!
>
> This isn't about using a Leica, although the photograph was taken with a
> Leica, an M6 at the time. It's all about 1/30th of a second of  captured
> time and what it means 15 years later to someone you've never met.
Sometimes
> we never relate to our photography in it's potential of giving great joy
to
> others.
>
> I had a phone call from a young man asking if I might have taken a picture
> of his father while I was shooting my first medical book, "This is Our
> Work.The Legacy of Sir William Osler." ?
>
> As he'd found his father's name listed in the book as one of those in the
> "thank you
> credits" although he did not find a picture of his father. And, was it
> possible I might have a picture of him in my files from the time of the
> shoot?
>
> His father, a doctor, anesthetist, had past away when the lad on the phone
> was 16 and he admired his father immensely and now he, the son,  was
> enrolled at McGill Medical School in Montreal following in his fathers
> footsteps. Consider the thousands of medical frames exposed at the time
and
> try to say,  "Oh yes I remember him etc etc." An impossible task.
>
> I suggested if possible, he send a scanned/JPEG picture of his dad and I'd
> have a look at the contact sheets and see if he might be there. Obviously
in
> my mind not holding out much hope after all these years.
>
> When his father's image appeared on the screen I immediately knew the man
in
> the picture, there wasn't any question. The son's photo of the father
wasn't
> in OR garb, but there was an immediate recognition for the doctor I knew.
>
> Although not published in the book, we had made a B&W slide of him
> during an operation and used it in many lectures to photo students and
> professional photogs.  My immediate response was, "Hey, that's the doctor
> with the flowered mask and glasses in the Montreal Children's Hospital!"
>
> It was like discovering gold!
>
> I immediately e-mailed a JPEG for confirmation. The response was
> a phone call of a very tearful son who'd never seen his father dressed in
OR
> garb for
> an operation. Here he was looking at a 1/30th of a moment in time of his
> late father. He was completely over come, obviously from our conversation
> there had been a wonderful relationship between father and son.
>
> We now have copies of the photo on the way for his mother, grand mother,
> younger brother
> and himself.
>
> You know, sometimes we as photographers capture something so meaningful
it's
> beyond words to describe what our 1/30th or whatever has done, not for us
in
> the satisfaction of a completed picture. But what we have on film has such
> great meaning for others whom we've never met.
>
> Because we are the recorders of our times and those around us, that
> sometimes I think we forget what we are doing in our quest for the
ultimate
> 1/30th moment and what it may mean to those who follow us.
>
> Our role in life isn't what camera / lens we use, we may at times think it
> is. It's really about everything we live for, see and save on film for
> future generations.  Many of you may not believe that, but it's true
simply
> because all we have to do is understand that each exposure we make is a
> record of our times. No different than those old timers with their wooden
> cameras, glass plates and horse drawn wagons who went before us.
>
> It only takes one moment of a young lad looking for a picture of his
father
> to open our eyes and heart to realize the importance of what we do in
> recording the life and times in our lives. Let's not forget, we are the
> visual record makers of the world. Small and large.
>
> Sorry it's a bit long, however, I hope I've got across what this boy gave
me
> in his request, "Do you happen to have a picture of my dad?"  And yes I
> cried along with him when we realized there was a picture.
>
> Now don't you think this has greater meaning than gnashing your teeth over
> something you don't have any control over, nor all the details to make a
> comment about?
>
> If you should unfortunately totally disagree with me, please do not
respond.
> Thank you.
>
> ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@ix.netcom.com> (RE: [Leica] Some may find this of interest)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] Some may find this of interest! ...... NO IT'S BULL SHIT!)