Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/22

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Subject: RE: [Leica] digitalrebel
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:44:23 -0400

Steve - You miss the point, and manage to be patronizing while missing
it - as usual.;-)

I have NOTHING against anyone being happy with what ever form of
photographic equipment - from a Box Brownie to a gold-plated, ostrich
skin-covered Leica MP meets their photographic needs. None what so ever.
And I have never written anything suggesting that I do. I have also
repeatedly stated that I am still primarily using film in my own work,
and understand that some people are not only loath to give up film, but
may never - more power to you, Steve.

And I was not comparing the results obtainable with the latest
generation of M lenses - results which are, when all is said and done,
beyond the power of 99.9 percent of hand-held shooter to obtain ;-) - to
digital results. What I am saying here is that it is utterly ludicrous
for those who are using 40-50-60 year-old flare-prone, poorly coated
lenses that when they were new were not considered the best available
and now don't even compare in image quality to the lenses SLR
manufactures sell as part of cheap packages, to be knocking digital
quality.

Again, just say "I love film." If someone loves using an III C,, or III
F with a Summabeenobsoletefor50years or an
Elmarcouldntproduceasharpimageswhenitcameoutoftheboxfivedecadesago, more
power to them. But it sounds pretty silly for them to be knocking
digital and digital cameras that in terms of pure lens and image quality
are generations ahead of the equipment they're using.

B. D.



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Steve
LeHuray
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:56 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] digitalrebel


B.D.Colen sings the same old song:
> 
> Again, if you're happy with film and your Rs, great - just as I am 
> happy with my Ms and film for most of my serious work. But our 
> preferring film for some or all our work doesn't negate the truth 
> about where digital is now, or about the fact that many of those 
> blindly bashing the idea of going digital are using truly obsolete 
> equipment that produces subpar results - in fact that produces image 
> quality that can be bested by virtually any modern SLR using consumer 
> lenses, or, for that matter, can be bested by a Bessa R using Cosina 
> lenses costing less than $500. ;-)
> 
> B. D.
> 

B.D. -- you have been banging the same old drum for several years now.
Please explain what you have against those people who are happy with
their Leicas. OK, a new M7 costs about $2700. Is it worth it? Probably
not. But apparently it is to many who are buying them. A new Porsche 911
Carrera costs about $80,000. Is it worth it? Apparently so, they cannot
keep up with the orders. Are digicams great and the wave of the future?
Yes I think they are. But so what? There are 10s of thousands of people
who love their Leicas and really do not need you making them feel about
about liking something. So now on your 57th (Happy Birthday BTW), how
about you moving on to some other crusade that is more meaningful to you
and something more important than your constant and meaningless Leica
bashing.

Best regards,

sl

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