Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You know, a lot of these on-list spats would not arise if we kept to the purpose of the LUG - i.e. discussion of things relative to Leica and photography using Leica equipment. Gerry gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca wrote: > B.D., does these posts of yours ring a bell? > > Regards, > > Greg > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R. > From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:02:15 -0500 > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > An 11 meg file when converted to grayscale for B&W, which I do, becomes > about a 3 to 4 meg file, which leaves very little if any room for > manipulation, particularly to produce large prints. And if you get > better gray scale files from a gray scale conversion of an image that > started as an 11 meg color digital file than you do with what I assume > is a 4000 dpi - or 20 meg 8 bit scan of a T-Max neg, you are doing > something very very wrong with your T-Max. I shoot and scan tri-x, and I > shoot with a camera that produces uncompressed Tiffs of over 11 meg - > and the two simply cannot be compared when producing prints larger than > about 8x10 - certainly not 16x20s. > > And, while I understood that you paid for your Digilux, am I not correct > in understanding that you were included in the Cape Cod - Park > Square/Leica underwritten - photo workshop to give a workshop > specifically on the Digilux? That, to me, is doing promotional work for > Leica. God knows there's nothing wrong with it - I'd be happy to do such > work! - but it might have some impact on your view of the quality of how > those 11 meg color tiffs, which reduce to 3-4 meg grayscale tiffs, > produce 16x20s that are superior to 20 meg grayscale scans of film. ;-) > > B. D. > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Tina > Manley > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:49 AM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R. > > > At 10:30 AM 2/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >Tina - The need for large file sizes is NOT exaggerated if you want to > >produce decent size prints at good resolution. First off, while > >newspapers can and do use small files because they print at low > >resolution, I know that when I wrote and shot a story for Newsday last > >summer, they wanted files of 11 meg, which while not huge, are hardly > >small. > > The files from the Digilux when saved as uncompressed Tiffs are over 11 > megabytes. So I guess it's not too small! I've made 16x20 prints that > surpass prints from TMax 400 film. > > > >Not wanting to be a pain in the ass - much - but I think this might be > >a time for us to be reminded that you do work for Leica, including > >making presentations on the Digilux. The reality here is that the > >Digilux is a high-end digital P&S, which some people love and which > >some reviewers don't love - but whether it is or isn't a great P&S, it > >is hardly a camera that most photojournalists would consider as a main > >digital camera. > > Leica didn't give me Digilux or even a break on the price. I bought it > because it is the closest thing available to a digital M. > It will do until something better comes along ;-) I can't take a big, > heavy, clunking digital SLR to the Mosquito Coast in April, but I can > take > the Digilux. > Don't knock it until you've tried it. > > With all due respect ;-) > > Tina > > > Tina Manley, ASMP > http://www.tinamanley.com > > photos available from: > http://www.pdiphotos.com > http://www.mira.com > http://www.agpix.com > http://www.newscom.com > > > > > > - -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > - -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- Gerry Walden LRPS www.gwpics.com +44 23 8046 3076 - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html