RE: [Leica] XXX of the YYY? WAS (something else) (fwd)

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

Thank you, Ted.

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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Leica] XXX of the YYY? WAS (something else) (fwd)


THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LEICA CAMERAS.

First of all lets make some things clear before you read on. I'm a
retired Armoured Corp officer, a father of 4, a grandfather of 10. I've
been involved in two wars and a few "skirmishes!" I've been involved at
the highest levels "politics" behind the scenes for over 30 years, so
what I'm about to type comes from the heart, experience and travesties
of war and these days, the absolute stupidity of it and politics.

I do not intend on insulting anyone and in particular my many American
friends. And I sincerely trust I don't. ==============

Eric Welch offered:
> Most of us wish there were no coffins I suppose, though if there has 
> to be, let's at least let people know what the price of our actions 
> are. Let's not sweep it under the rug for so mundane a purpose of 
> making it easier to be re-elected. That kind of electioneering strikes

> me as so incredibly selfish.<<<<

Hi Eric,
Man your comment grabbed me and even though it's your country and your
President I just have to make a comment regarding the "hiding of the
young men being killed in Iraq on their return home!"

> That kind of electioneering strikes me as so incredibly selfish.<<<<

Incredibly selfish???

It's damn well down right heinous, deceitful, despicable and the s.o.b.
who came up with covering "his ass" to keep their jobs on the next
election go around and to keep him high in the polls should be hung up
by the feet and castrated slowly!!!

If nothing else this kind of thoughtless inhuman, uncaring and
disrespectful action just to get this "chap" (sorry I can't write what I
truly want to
say) re -elected, is absolutely beyond the ethics of any politician! Let
alone any human being. Be great to hear from the parents, wives and
children who've had the remains brought home instead of the vertical
standing human being. Particularly when hiding the bodies is for nothing
else to get him re-elected and stay high in the polls..

If nothing else it points up the utter hypocrisy this chap and his
cronies have for the young men and women serving in a far off land. They
are getting killed daily for just being there. Oh I know someone will
come up with a hundred reasons why they should be there. If you do, then
you go and send some young guy home to live another day.  Think about
that as a fair exchange.

And if there is anyone out there who can in their heart and with the
simplest of common sense, justify these deaths and the hiding of the
remains as each is returned to his or her homeland and their bodies
hidden just so this "chap" can be re-elected. Then for heaven sake
please, please make me feel better that it's OK and you also accept it
as an OK thing. So this chap can get re-elected.

Then tell me it's the American way of treating fellow countrymen serving
overseas, getting killed and not being properly respected when brought
off the plane arriving home.

Sure sure I know all the stories about bad for moral etc, but in these
times that doesn't wash cause the hiding of bodies off the planes is
purely for "political reasons" and absolutely nothing else!

I apologize to my southern cousins, because without question I make the
greatest effort to stay out of commenting on your country and it's
leadership. But in this case of such a disrespectful manner towards
young boys being killed and then being denied the right for their fellow
Americans to see how many have made the ultimate sacrifice when arriving
home, I just had to cry out for some kind of explanation.

Certainly the hiding of these bodies is for nothing more than getting
this chap's ass covered so he can be re-elected. Shame, shame on him!
And the people allowing him to get away with it. ted





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