RE: [Leica] The Right To Privacy

["B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>]

I saw those reports - and wondered whether he was reading scripts
prepared for him by the Pentagon. Some very basic questions that went
unasked and unanswered:

Did those children now drinking clean water have clean water BEFORE the
war and BEFORE America bombed the bejesus out of Iraq?

Where is he getting his employment and unemployment figures given that
there is no real government? Are they Pentagon figures?

Weren't those same markets and businesses functioning before the war and
before we bombed the place?

I would point out that prior to the war, schools were functioning;
hospitals were functioning, and Iraq had a functioning - if lousy -
economy.

The news isn't that some kids are in school and that someone is selling
gold chains; the news is that not only haven't Americans been treated as
liberators - as our government told us they would be, but they are being
killed on a daily basis.

Not to draw the Vietnam analogy - which is flawed in virtually other
respect other than the lies being told by the government so resemble
those being told by the Johnson and Nixon administrations back when -
but the schools were open in Vietnam; the markets were functioning in
Saigon and throughout the country; and various American units put pumps
in villages. ;-)



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Patrick
Jelliffe
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:28 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] The Right To Privacy


Since there is no local signal, (or cable), up here in
the hills, I just went here to find a summation of
Arnot's recent reports:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2003/fax20031117.asp

Sounds cozier than embedded.

Patrick

- --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> There have been a number of stories lately about how
> MSNBC - which was
> nothing more or less than the cable version of NBC
> news has transformed
> its evening operations into an attempt to compete
> screaming head with
> screaming with FOX news. Which is to say it has gone
> hard to the
> 'right.' Keep in mind that MSNBC is the channel that
> gave that vicious
> screed-monger Michael "Savage" a TV program which he
> lost when even
> MSNBC couldn't deal with his homophobic ranting, and
> they turned an our
> in the evening over to former GOP congressman
> somebody
> Scarborough....The problem of course is that both
> FOX and MSNBC can
> count their evening audience on the toes of both
> feet, so....
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On
> Behalf Of parker
> haeg
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] The Right To Privacy
> 
> 
> I'd add the continued claim that the media is not
> reporting the good
> news
> from Iraq to the idea of "make[ing] a cheap
> political statement;" as
> well.  
> I want one of these former Genreals turned talking
> heads, or better yet 
> someone from the Admin., to sit down with a grieving
> widow and her six
> month 
> old and explain that "every thing is going according
> to plan" and all of
> 
> this negative stuff is just a vast left wing
> conspiracy.
> Don't know if anyone has seen the esteemed Bob Arnot
> on MSNBC, but he's
> doing a hell of a job of avoiding cheap political
> statement in his 
> reporting. . .feel like I'm watching Pravda TV.
> 
> 
> >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >Subject: RE: [Leica] The Right To Privacy
> >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:09:34 -0500
> >
> >I don't know who made the inane comment about
> "photographing these dead
> 
> >dudes," but the death of U.S. service men and women
> while on duty is
> >and always has been what is called NEWS. The media
> doesn't photograph
> >coffins and funerals to "make a cheap political
> statement;" it does so
> >because the deaths are NEWS. The only "cheap
> political statements" are
> >those regarding why the media shouldn't be doing
> its traditional job of
> 
> >reporting news.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On
> Behalf Of Daniel
> >Ridings
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:29 AM
> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >Subject: RE: [Leica] The Right To Privacy
> >
> >
> > > And the intention of the press in photographing
> these dead dudes is
> > > not to "honor" them but to make a cheap
> political statement by
> > > photographing their interment.  Shame on the
> photographers and
> > > journalists who would do so!
> >
> >Their very status, as a cold corpse, is also a
> political statement.
> >
> >Daniel
> >
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