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Subject: [Leica] DEADLINE I*AQ - 'camera operator'
From: Johnny Deadman <lists@johnbrownlow.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:41:34 -0500
References: <3FC25BDE.4020704@osheaven.net> <LNBBLBNFHNEHGFKFMALGOEBOIOAB.tim@KairosPhoto.com> <13839301516.20031124185816@sonc.com> <3FC2AD4B.34A8DB83@pacbell.net> <10843176908.20031124200251@sonc.com> <3FC2CFDE.C46BF83D@pacbell.net> <2850672768.20031124220746@sonc.com>

Strictly speaking, in movies, a camera operator is the person who 
frames the image and operates the camera under the direction of the 
director but working to the Director of Photography or 'Lighting 
Cameraman' if you are in England.

In documentaries and news in the UK 'Cameraman' was used in news & 
current affairs to designate a DoP working without a Camera Operator in 
the field, and if it was a woman we said 'Camerawoman' or 'Camera 
Person' or 'DP' (sounds American to a Brit). We would only use 'Camera 
Operator' if it was a two camera setup and the DP had a deputy.

In other words 'Cameraman' and 'Camera Operator' are not 
interchangeable. I have NEVER heard 'Camera Operator' used in the sense 
of 'Gender Neutral term for Cameraman'. 'Camera Person' is the closest.

So it's a terminological inexactitude IMNSHO.

In TV the standard UK credit is 'Camera' which doesn't work very well 
in conversation.

Of course most lay people (persons?) don't realize the important that 
tv/movie people attach to credits. It always astonishes people when 
they realize how many pages of my contracts deal with the size, 
prominence and relative position of my credit.

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