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Subject: Re[2]: [Leica] DEADLINE I*AQ -answering Jerry
From: Sonny Carter <sonc@sonc.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:07:46 -0800
References: <3FC25BDE.4020704@osheaven.net> <LNBBLBNFHNEHGFKFMALGOEBOIOAB.tim@KairosPhoto.com> <13839301516.20031124185816@sonc.com> <3FC2AD4B.34A8DB83@pacbell.net> <10843176908.20031124200251@sonc.com> <3FC2CFDE.C46BF83D@pacbell.net>

Jerry,

Do not call me Sonny boy. I am polite to you, I expect the same from
you.

I don't believe you have seen the work close up. I believe you are
incorrect about the situation there.

Sonny


Monday, November 24, 2003, 7:43:26 PM, you wrote:

JL> Sonny

JL> No, sonny-boy, I have seen how they work here in San Diego. The
JL> TV cameraman just aims the camera where he/ she is told to.

JL> Your contention may very well be true in other areas.  Please notice
JL> that I said that TV stations HERE, do that.  Other places do have
JL> true PJs.  You, very well, may be one of them.

JL> Jerry

JL> Sonny Carter wrote:

>> Monday, November 24, 2003, 5:15:55 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> JL>  Sonny
>>
>> JL> Some TV stations here have the nerve to call the camera holders "Photo
>> JL> Journalists"!  All they do is point the camera where the reporter or director
>> JL> tells them to!
>>
>> JL> Jerry
>>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> I like to think you are wrong about that.  If you have that attitude, you denigrate
>> some really fine journalists
>> who happen to be photographers rather than reporters.
>>
>> Many times, the photographer is the one to get the story, a producer writes it and
>> an anchor reads it.
>>
>> That said, in many many markets there is no team, just the reporter/cameraman
>> (one person) out there doing the job.
>>
>> For a number of years, I covered the Louisiana Legislature without a
>> reporter along.   I covered the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans without
>> a reporter.  I covered the Black Panther Shoot-out in Desire Project
>> without a reporter.
>>
>> I covered the Christmas Day fire in New Orleans that killed three
>> firemen without a reporter.
>>
>> There were many more instances, but it was more often me showing the
>> reporter what to do than the other way around.
>>
>> Finally, I would tell you that when I worked on the Jim Metcalf
>> Journal at WWL-TV, I would shoot the piece, and Jim would look at my
>> film and write the story.  For work like that we won one of Channel 4's several
>> Peabody Awards.
>>
>>   Sonny
>>   http://www.sonc.com
>>
>> JL> Sonny Carter wrote:
>>
>> >> Hello Tim,
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to point out that in television "Camera operators"
>> >> designates fixed camera positions, such as
>> >> you might find in a studio.
>> >>
>> >> Although I am no longer in that number, even though we stopped
>> >> using motion picture film for news coverage,
>> >> those of us who continued with video camera, continued to call
>> >> ourselves news photographers.  A few use the term "news
>> >> videographer."
>> >>
>> >> I know you want to maintain accuracy.
>> >>
>> >> Sonny
>> >>
>> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 4:04:30 PM, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> TA> Those of you north of the border (or south who are close enough to it to get
>> >> TA> CBC) - this is a very compelling documentary about news gathering in the
>> >> TA> Ira* Wa*.
>> >>
>> >> TA> "These are the stories that weren't't told by the media during the Ira* wa*.
>> >> TA> CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, to journalists, camera operators and
>> >> TA> photographers from news organizations around the world, who reveal the
>> >> TA> lethal risks they faced,
>> >> TA> as well as the untold horrors they witnessed."
>> >>
>> >> TA> There was a one hour version on last night. The full two hour version is
>> >> TA> supposed on next Sunday on CBC at 10pm I think.
>> >>
>> >> TA> tim
>> >>
>> >> TA> --
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>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>  Sonny                            mailto:sonc@sonc.com
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Sonny                            mailto:sonc@sonc.com
>>
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