Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography
From: sam <sam@osheaven.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:52:41 -0500
References: <7629EB4795F39146A4D2ECC655CD68EA2B1303@asc02.asc.upenn.edu> <3FD798BC.3040602@rhodos.dk>

Let me add to the fray by making this comment: I don't care what anybody 
considers art to be. I have my own sense of what art is and do not 
insist others adhere to it. But I do insist that I not be forced to 
indulge in other people's fantasies through public funding. The 
mechanism for arts funding in the United States is corrupt and absurdly 
political. "Powerful" work like Cumshots need to find a patron to foot 
the bill. Utopian dreamers ought not have the power to take money from 
hard-working people to fester, uh rather, foster art for public 
consumption.

Some say that how a country supports the arts is the measure of its 
intelligence and sophistication but fail to understand that it is much 
more a case of national manipulation. A few rarefied queer ducks 
gleefully spending other people's money doing things heretofore illegal.

Lunacy.


Sam S




RUBEN BLĘDEL wrote:

> The cumshots as well as the drugshots are very strong and starts a chain 
> reactions of refelctions - its powerful - I would not buy it but its 
> artistic impact is powerful and I am happy that you got our attention on 
> this exhibit !
> 
> Kyle Cassidy wrote:
> 
>> Not for the faint of heart, but the art world (in which some artists use
>> cameras) swings back and forth. Ashkan Sahihi's made a "sensational" 
>> series
>> of images that are only offensive with the proper text accompanying them.
>> And he's made an interesting comment on pornography without using nudity.
>> Which is interesting in and of itself. Are people trying, 
>> intentionally now,
>> to be the next robert maplethorpe, or andreas serrano? Probably not, but
>> they pushed the envelope in a very different direction and it's never 
>> going
>> to lose that shape, it'll just keep going.
>>
>> Ah, the LUG, that's where I get the art scene buzz.....
>>
>> Again -- a warning -- no nudity, but graphic sexual content.
>>
>> Interview about the exhibit:
>>
>> http://www.nerve.com/Dispatches/Martin/Face_premium/Face_text.asp
>>
>> And the exhibit:
>>
>> http://www.axelraben.com/sahihi/cumShots/
>>
>> kc
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