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Subject: Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:48:24 -0800
References: <404A0D7D.6070604@wanadoo.nl> <015001c40408$9515cd60$87d86c18@gv.shawcable.net> <404AC893.1070200@wanadoo.nl>

Michiel,
Honestly I didn't see them. All I saw was a person without a face and an out
of focus background.
ted
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michiel Fokkema" <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9


> Hi Ted,
>
> Thanks for your commment. In principle I agree with you but in this case
> i thought the reflection of her eyes in the window and the horse in the
> background would make a picture. But if you don't see it, it certainly
> failed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michiel Fokkema
>
>
>
> Ted Grant wrote:
>
> > Michiel Fokkema showed:
> >
> >>This weeks PAW shows my wife who is watching the horse back riding of
> >>one of our daughters. I could have used a bit more dof but there was not
> >>much light.
> >>
> >>http://home.wanadoo.nl/michiel.fokkema/Fotografie/paw2004/9.html<<<,
> >
> >
> > Hello Michiel,
> > Sorry me old son, it just doesn't cut it at all as it's an exposure and
> > that's it. Actually there isn't anything to make any kind of subject
sense.
> >
> > You see here's what happened. You were there, you know what your good
wife
> > is looking at, but your picture show's nothing of it or her properly.
> >
> > We don't see her eyes or partial face with an eye illustrating she's
looking
> > at something. And in your caption you say:
> >
> >
> >>>>I could have used a bit more dof but there was not much light.<<<<<
> >
> >
> > That maybe the case, but there wasn't a picture to start with, so DOF
depth
> > is meaningless.
> >
> > Please understand I'm not giving you a hard time, because quite frankly
we,
> > everyone on this list, does the same thing at some time or other. Our
"being
> > there, making an exposure, feeling the emotions, the environment of the
> > location, all create feelings" when we squeeze the shutter release that
are
> > not recorded on film for others to see. "We" may feel it long after,
> > actually many years after,  but it's truly never on film although in our
> > feelings it is.
> >
> > But we the photographer's feel them as though they're vividly captured
on
> > film! Hey, we, all of us. I still for over 53 years do it on occasion,
> > usually in family situations but not on the professional side for some
> > reason, do it when I'm photographing some of my 10 grand children I get
> > hooked by what you've attempted to show in this photograph.
> >
> > And mon ami it just doesn't happen, nor did it happen here.
> >
> > I truly hope I've made myself clear and not ticked you off, but in
absolute
> > truth this isn't a picture other than in your minds eye! Correct
exposure?
> > Yes! Picture with some understandable content? No. Better luck next
time, so
> > simply keep shooting your daughter riding, therefore shoot lots and get
> > better.
> >
> > ted
> >
> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no> (Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)
Reply from Karen Nakamura <mail@gpsy.com> (Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)
In reply to: Message from Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> ([Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)
Message from Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> (Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)