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Subject: Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9
From: Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 08:00:35 +0100
References: <404A0D7D.6070604@wanadoo.nl> <015001c40408$9515cd60$87d86c18@gv.shawcable.net>

Hi Ted,

Thanks for your commment. In principle I agree with you but in this case 
i thought the reflection of her eyes in the window and the horse in the 
background would make a picture. But if you don't see it, it certainly 
failed.

Best regards,

Michiel Fokkema



Ted Grant wrote:

> Michiel Fokkema showed:
> 
>>This weeks PAW shows my wife who is watching the horse back riding of
>>one of our daughters. I could have used a bit more dof but there was not
>>much light.
>>
>>http://home.wanadoo.nl/michiel.fokkema/Fotografie/paw2004/9.html<<<,
> 
> 
> Hello Michiel,
> Sorry me old son, it just doesn't cut it at all as it's an exposure and
> that's it. Actually there isn't anything to make any kind of subject sense.
> 
> You see here's what happened. You were there, you know what your good wife
> is looking at, but your picture show's nothing of it or her properly.
> 
> We don't see her eyes or partial face with an eye illustrating she's looking
> at something. And in your caption you say:
> 
> 
>>>>I could have used a bit more dof but there was not much light.<<<<<
> 
> 
> That maybe the case, but there wasn't a picture to start with, so DOF depth
> is meaningless.
> 
> Please understand I'm not giving you a hard time, because quite frankly we,
> everyone on this list, does the same thing at some time or other. Our "being
> there, making an exposure, feeling the emotions, the environment of the
> location, all create feelings" when we squeeze the shutter release that are
> not recorded on film for others to see. "We" may feel it long after,
> actually many years after,  but it's truly never on film although in our
> feelings it is.
> 
> But we the photographer's feel them as though they're vividly captured on
> film! Hey, we, all of us. I still for over 53 years do it on occasion,
> usually in family situations but not on the professional side for some
> reason, do it when I'm photographing some of my 10 grand children I get
> hooked by what you've attempted to show in this photograph.
> 
> And mon ami it just doesn't happen, nor did it happen here.
> 
> I truly hope I've made myself clear and not ticked you off, but in absolute
> truth this isn't a picture other than in your minds eye! Correct exposure?
> Yes! Picture with some understandable content? No. Better luck next time, so
> simply keep shooting your daughter riding, therefore shoot lots and get
> better.
> 
> ted
> 
> 
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Replies: Reply from "Eric" <ericm@pobox.com> ([Leica] Re: Michiel's PAW 9)
Reply from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)
In reply to: Message from Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> ([Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] Michiel's PAW 9)