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Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to Digi2: G5 or C5060?
From: Sam <sam@osheaven.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 07:06:22 -0500
References: <001001c403fe$14bddc20$6401a8c0@len>

I began looking at the pictures before I had read any text and I thought 
some of the shots had been taken with a mirror lens because of how the 
out of focus areas are rendered.

Sam S
 

Leonard J Kapner wrote:

>Friends,
>
>I am fortunate to have both the Leica D2 and the Canon G5. Just for fun, I
>took them both with me this morning to make some family snaps at a
>restaurant breakfast. Both set for aperture priority, no flash assist and
>fine JPEG. 
>
>Net? Resolution results on card are almost identical. On auto indoors with
>fluorescent and some mixed daylight from the east, color balance with the D2
>is "cooler" than the G5, sort of like it used to be between Ektachrome and
>Kodachrome 25 years ago. 
>
>DOF with the D2 at max extension seems shallower than with the G5, perhaps
>the result of a larger sensor size?
>
>The D2 is very camera-like in its operation, although I'm still getting used
>to the EVF. Its form factor is larger than the G5, but grips nicely due to
>the textured skin and feels substantial. The D2's EVF is preferable to the
>optical viewfinder on the G5.
>
>Menu visibility in the D2's EVF is excellent. The D2's basic controls are
>just like the film-based rangefinder camera, the G5's are a combination of
>radio buttons as well as two and four-way rocker switches, and there are a
>lot of them - generally a "fussy", non-intuitive human interface design. 
>
>The G5 has very good battery life, the D2 less so, but both were adequate to
>burn through a 256mb card of fine JPEGs without going flat.
>
>If I could have only one, price no object, I would choose the D2. But
>factoring in the current street price, the G5 is about 3 x less expensive
>than the D2, so I would have to choose the G5.
>
>Both cameras make excellent snapshots, if that's what you're looking for.
>The D2 approaches being a serious work tool; only time will tell if I begin
>to use it in place of M or R systems cameras for other than amusement and
>family documentation.
>
>Regarding the other camera mentioned, I have no experience with the C5060,
>other than its designator is the same as the last four digits of my 'phone
>number. :-)
>
>Hope this is of help.
>
>Len
>Leonard J Kapner
>E-Mail: ljkapner at cox dot net 
>Tel: (310) 377-5060 / Mobile: (310) 291-0140
> 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Bob Adler
>Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 4:58 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to Digi2: G5 or C5060?
>
>Stan,
>I have the G5. It does RAW and TIFF. Photoshop CS
>supports the RAW and is great. The 2.0 lens is also
>useful for low light. The output is very acceptable to
>me. Shutter lag is not a problem; you just have to
>focus first. It has two custom setting, one of which I
>have set for infinite focus manually, so there's no
>waiting. I think I saw on a post earlier this week
>that Ted Grant has one and uses it successfully to
>capture his grandchild's basketball endeavors. If I'm
>wrong, forgive me Ted.
>
>I'm very please with the camera's electronics, optics,
>and output for what I use it for. 
>
>I do prefer the solid feel and wonderful sound of my
>M's however :-)
>Bob
>--- Stan Yoder <vze2myh5@verizon.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>OK, the Canon G5 and Olympus 5060 have been
>>mentioned here recently as having merit. Any
>>consensus 
>>about which is better, if at all? The G5 has a
>>1-stop faster lens, which might make it easier to
>>put 
>>backgrounds out of focus, repeat 'might.' Anything
>>the 5060 has that the G5 doesn't?
>>
>> From what I can read, the G5 only outputs in JPEG,
>>whereas the 5060 apparently will do TIFF and RAW 
>>as well, eliminating compression artifacts. But when
>>I handled a G5 at a store I thought, repeat 
>>'thought' I was able to get a TIFF choice in the
>>menu. Anyone confirm that?
>>
>>Stan Yoder
>>Pittsburgh
>>
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>Palo Alto, CA
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