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Subject: RE: [Leica] Steve Gandy's update on the digital bessa
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:49:06 -0500

IF I shot K64; IF I used a tripod for 35 mm; IF I did landscapes - I
would agree with you, and would either use film or would sell a child
and buy a Canon1Ds and lenses.

But in terms of black and white, and in terms of the equiv of color neg
shooting, handheld, well...Also, I am obviously not into bench-test
comparisons, nor am I worrying about micro detail examined with a loupe.
What I'm interested in is what the naked eye sees at normal viewing
distance in a print or on a computer screen.

Also, keep in mind that when I posted the original and the upscaled crop
yesterday, I had upscaled the crop to the point where apx 1/3 of the
original image was a file about 16% larger than the entire original
image. Which tells me that I could get a damn good 13x19 print out of
that 1/3 crop without straining at all.....

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Frank
Dernie
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:52 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Steve Gandy's update on the digital bessa


My experience is slightly different - I no longer buy B&W! I can get 
that from a digi file at will. I do find that for ultimate quality (ie 
tripod mounted optimum aperture stuff, not hand held wide open) I get 
more detail from a 35mm transparency scan (Kodachrome 64 and provia F) 
200ASA print films I have tried are inferior to my DSLR. OTOH if I am 
doing landscapes I use medium format...
Frank

On Saturday, March 13, 2004, at 11:12  pm, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> I told another forum earlier that I've pretty much decided never to 
> buy color film again. Even the best color 35mm film cannot compete.
>
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of B. D. 
> Colen
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 4:50 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Steve Gandy's update on the digital bessa
>
> :-)
> Speaking of disclaimers....Enough of the film v digital bs. Go look at

> http://www.leica-gallery.net/bdcolen/image-62369.html
> And
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/bdcolen/image-62368.html
> The image was shot at 200 iso, using the Olympus E-1 with the 50 macro
> f
> 2 - 100 mm 35 mm equiv - set at f 2.5. The original file is 14.7 meg.
> The cropped image, which is what, about 1/3 of the original, was 
> upsized
> using nothing but photoshop, setting it for 110% each time, until I
had
> a 17 meg file of the cropped area. Then I set my size to 8x5 at 72
dpi,
> did a similar, slight dodge of the boy's and father's face on each
> image, put borders on them, and uploaded them with NO sharpening. And
> btw, the camera is set to not sharpen.
>
> So if you want to use film, more power to you. If not... :-)
>
> B. D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jeffery 
> Smith
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:26 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Steve Gandy's update on the digital bessa
>
>
> BD
>
> Attach a wav file with that really fast-talking dude who gives all the

> disclaimers before used car ads on the radio. [I hope he isn't only 
> down here).
>
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of B. D. 
> Colen
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 4:02 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Steve Gandy's update on the digital bessa
>
> Yup. But Phong, do you want a disclaimer with every friggin' post? I 
> hardly make a secret of my Olympus ties...:-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel 
> Ridings
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:57 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Steve Gandy's update on the digital bessa
>
>
> I've got some ties from various universities. I suspect BD does too :)
>
> The only tie I have with Olympus is that I bought one for my wife a 
> few years back and it keeps delivering pictures of incredible quality 
> (always with Fujicolor 800 in it).
>
> Anyway, when something costs 1/3 as much and is still comparable if 
> not outright better, then it must feel _good_ to have ties to the 
> better alternative. Like choosing the right horse to bet on :)
>
> Daniel
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Phong wrote:
>
>> There you go again B.D..
>> You forgot to mention your Olympus ties.
>> Bad, B.D., bad.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> - Phong
>>
>> [ I am waiting for a Rabiner tie-in]
>>
>>
>> B. D. Colen wrote:
>>>
>>> And costs less than 1/3 of what an D2 does... :-)
>>>
>> Daniel Ridings wrote:
>>>
>>> The Olympus C-5050 is a little faster :) (f1.8)
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
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