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Subject: Fish (WAS: [Leica] Lost Faith in Leica) (Nathan Wajsman)
From: dorysrus at mindspring.com (Don Dory)
Date: Sun Sep 19 10:55:33 2004

Photographing food as food is truly a specialty.  I don't think that a
rangefinder is especially suited, but a system with shifts and tilts
helps a lot in composing what is seen, in the image but subtle, and what
is not seen.

If you mean the preparation of food then a rangefinder works very well
indeed.

As to the meat itself, I am somewhat at odds with myself.  With red
meat, I either like it raw sliced very thinly, or smoked until it is
falling apart.  I have only found a few places that will take enough
time and care to do that.  The last place was in Greenville, Mississippi
and I think they were closed by health concerns.

As an aside, when I was in a Japanese traditional restaurant, the
waitress had a hard time with this stupid American who did not
understand that the thinly sliced beef was supposed to be cooked in the
steaming broth, not eaten raw. :)

At home I use a "Big Green Egg". This is a large, heavy ceramic smoker
allegedly inspired by ovens used by the residents of Japan. In any case,
you can hold a moderate temperature most of a day and with the proper
choice and mix of charcoal and wood you can imbue the meat with a
luscious taste.

Regarding catfish, I don't seem to enjoy it now that most catfish comes
from farms and is corn-fed.  Salmon on the other hand, I still find
quite satisfying and most of what we get in the states is now farm
raised.

0.02

Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of Philippe Orlent
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:37 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: Fish (WAS: [Leica] Lost Faith in Leica) (Nathan Wajsman)

I think we've covered the fish part of the food scale now.

But how do you like your meat? And what kind of meat?

Better even, how would you photograph meat, and since we're at it, food
in
general? Is it something a Leica is suited for, or is it just better to
shoot it in middle or large format?

---

> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:26:54 +0100
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: Fish (WAS: [Leica] Lost Faith in Leica) (Nathan Wajsman)
> 
> I meant the food! I love eating in Belgium but end up fatter, I don't
> think I have eaten light food in Belgium. I have been to Brussels,
> Zolder and Spa.
> Frank
> 
> On 19 Sep, 2004, at 13:02, Philippe Orlent wrote:
> 
>> Belgium a bit rich/old fashioned?
>> What in whoever's name makes you think that?
>> ---
>>> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:53:08 +0100
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Fish (WAS: [Leica] Lost Faith in Leica) (Nathan
Wajsman)
>>> 
>>> I would agree with that, Belgium can be good too but it is a bit
>>> rich/old-fashioned.
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> On 19 Sep, 2004, at 10:18, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I fully back F?lix regarding San Sebastian. It was a wonderful city
>>>> and we left with very food stomachs and very satisfied palates. I
>>>> don't know about Paris, I have been there many times but have not
>>>> really eaten well there--probably did not go to the right places,
>>>> because the food in other parts of France has been exquisite. But
if
>>>> I
>>>> am to pick a country for the best overall food (not 3-star
Michelin,
>>>> but in daily life), it would be a close contest between Spain and
>>>> Italy, with (for me) Spain the winner by a slim margin.
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> F?lix L?pez de Maturana wrote:
>>>>>> The best fresh fish I have had in my life was in San Sebastian in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Basque country. We were staying in a hotel overlooking the city,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> every morning around 7 a.m. we saw the fishermen coming back. The
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> evening we would go to the restaurants and eat that fish.
>>>>>> Fantastic!
>>>>> I can back it as I was born in San Sebastian where fishermen get
out
>>>>> at four
>>>>> in the morning and get back for selling captures before lunch.
>>>>> Eating
>>>>> fresh
>>>>> fish is a common habit but more and more we are going to frozen
>>>>> factory ship
>>>>> fish...what a pity. Perhaps Natham could back my opinion that San
>>>>> Sebastian,
>>>>> with Paris, is one of the best sites in the world for getting
>>>>> excellent
>>>>> food...
>>>>> Felix
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>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Almere, The Netherlands
>>>> 
>>>> General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>> Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com
>>>> 
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