Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I am curious how you think a digital M could be sold for the same price as a film M. Not only does all the R&D have to be amortised, but where there is currently just a pressure plate there will have to be a (very) expensive sensor and all the electronics to make it all work. Dream on! Frank On 20 Sep, 2004, at 00:03, Scott McLoughlin wrote: > Roger what B.D. said. APS sensor at 6MP or so with > good noise control at higher ISO (IMHO, 800 has to > be very, very usable) is just fine. Just let the customers > get used to the crop, tell them which lenses just won't > work and get something out the door. Hi megapix > count is just a distraction, and full frame ain't gonna > happen at anything but a stratospheric price point. > > I think by putting off an RF M for so long, Leica's just > raising the bar higher and higher for itself, setting > up customers for an eventual let down. For digital, the > product cycle has to more than one or two designs > per decade. > > RD-1 is a first data point in a digital M body. It's too pricey > for what it is, but it shows everybody that a company can > get such a body out the door without moving heaven and > earth or like heroics. > > FWIW, I believe the "price-point" for an APS sensor digi > M is about what the film bodies cost today: $2,700 USD. > Anything more, and only the collectors and fondlers will > buy them. At a much higher price than the current M's, > Leica faithful shooters (and M newbies) will buy M7's and > MP's for shooting film, but go elsewhere for digital wants/ > needs. > > Again, just IMHO. I guess we'll have to wait 2 years to > find out :-) > > > B. D. Colen wrote: > >> What would be the point? Quite simply the point would be to use them >> with whatever crop factor is necessary. I can think of allot worse >> things than having the 35 Summilux ASPH morph into what might be the >> world's best 50 mm lens. ;-) >> >> And don't put any money on the image quality of the digital M being >> any >> better than that of the Nikon D70 or the Digital Rebel. It's the build >> that sucks on those two, not the image quality. >> >> Oh, P.S. Leica has not for years been the company we all so fondly >> remember as E. Leitz, and some of our memories of that company may be >> a >> bit too nostalgia clouded as it is. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >> Of >> Jonathan Borden >> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:44 PM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Digital M/Digital Rebel was Re: [Leica] Lost Faith in Leica >> >> >> >> B. D. Colen wrote: >> >> >>> This just in from Mars: >>> I would buy a digital M - IF it was price-point competitive with >>> Canon >>> >> >> >>> and Nikon bodies offering the same image quality. In other words, if >>> Leica produces a digital M for about $3K to 4K, that is comparable >>> in image quality, megp count, etc., to a Canon Rebel or Nikon D70, I >>> wouldn't buy it. If, however, they produce a 10+ megp digital M that >>> compares to the high end Canons or Nikons, I would indeed buy it. >>> >>> >> >> Amen. >> >> Of course if they made a digital M that was of the quality of a >> Digital Rebel then the company formerly known as E. Leitz will have >> entirely ceased to exist. >> >> My hope is that they are being properly anally compulsive and >> delaying the digital M until a 10mp+ sensor can be made that works >> well with the current crop of wide angle M lenses ... otherwise what >> would be the point of a digital M? >> >> Jonathan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >