Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/08

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Subject: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Mon Nov 8 17:46:52 2004

That's absolutely true, Luis. If money was the only issue, no one but
the idle rich would ever buy M cameras. Certainly there is the fact that
they are rangefinders in a reflex world; that they are beautifully made
mechanical objects; that they do what they're supposed to do, as they're
supposed to do it, every time you want them to do it; that they are
'one' with the user.

However, many people believe that the cameras hold their value - and
while they used to hold much of their value, that just isn't as true
anymore. In fact, at this point, they aren't holding their value much
better than upper-end of the line Canon and Nikon film cameras. 

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Luis Ripoll
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:20 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron


Maybe, but sometimes for someones the money value is not the only or the
main point to consider.

Best wishes
Luis

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En nombre
de B. D. Colen Enviado el: martes, 09 de noviembre de 2004 0:52
Para: 'Leica Users Group'
Asunto: RE: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron

That used to be the beauty, Vic. But alas, with the dying of film, it is
no longer true. While Leica equipment may hold its value better than
most film equipment, it is no longer holding it the way it did even a
year ago. M6 TTLs purchased for $1995 were selling for about $1450 in
near mint condition - now they're down to about $1150 - if you're lucky-
and used M7s, which are now selling for, what, around $2800, are only
worth approximately 50% of their new priced once they've been driven off
the lot. So if you're going to invest $2500 in a 50 1.4 lens, you damn
well better love that lens. ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Vick Ko
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 6:04 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron


The beauty with Leica equipment is that at reasonable prices, you can
buy the lens, take photos with it, discover its personality, and if you
don't like it, sell it for what you paid for it.

The really evil part is to buy both, with the thinking that you'll sell
one of them   ;-)


regards
Vick

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+vick.ko=sympatico.ca@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+vick.ko=sympatico.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Luis Ripoll
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:55 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron


Hello everyone,

As I've said sometimes I'm not interested on the Summilux because it has
one stop more than Summicron, the only point I'm interested is of this
"personality". I've read that at F2 Summicron is better, that at 5,6 are
similar. But nobody has already talk me about the mentioned
"personality" , or fingerprint. In other words, colours and or black and
white gradation, subtlety, differences in capability to isolate the main
subject., these are the important points for me, and I'm not discussing
for the perfection, I'm discussing about the impression that this lens
could give.

I ask this question because I have a reasonable offer for a Summilux 50
(E46), and I don't know if it paid's invest .., or burn the money on it.

Thanks for the opinions

Saludos desde Barcelona
Luis
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