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Subject: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron; and LHSA
From: jefferys at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Mon Nov 8 19:12:17 2004
References: <000e01c4c5f7$ecfe9dc0$6401a8c0@dorysrusp4> <039401c4c5ff$cd2801a0$7d38030a@D1S9FY41>

I gave them a few suggestions for hotels. I hope to meet some of the
folks when they meet down here. Sonny will probably make the trip down
here for that, at least I hope he will. It is apparently a rather
small group (60ish people?)

Jeffery


On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:59:21 -0500, Seth Rosner <sethrosner@direcway.com> 
wrote:
> Don, I have owned only one non-Leitz/Leica 50mm lens, the Nikkor 50/1,4.
> Have owned and used the 50/2 Summar, 50/3,5 Elmar, 50/2,8 Elmar, 50/2
> Summitar, 50/1,5 Summarit, 50/2 DR and Rigid Summicron, 50/2 Summicron-R
> (1964 and 1971 [?] versions), 50/2 Summicron-M 11817 and 11819 and the 1962
> 50/1,4 Summilux. All wonderful lenses in their own styles and 
> "fingerprints"
> as Erwin describes it.
> 
> And ten days ago at the LHSA meeting in Williamsburg I used a loaner 50/1,4
> Summilux ASPH loaner provided by Christian Erhard from Leica Northvale.
> Awaiting results although am persuaded from all feedback that this lens
> really is the ne plus ultra. That said, I am inclined to guess that it's
> image is still a little more harder and contrasty than I like and will
> probably remain true to the DR/Rigid both for imagery and the fortress-like
> integrity of their construction.
> 
> Reminds me to suggest to all that LHSA meetings habitually provide a
> marvelous forum and meeting-place as well as an opportunity to borrow and
> use the most recent Leica offerings. As well, in W'burg, Ralph Hagenauer
> from Solms led a small group in a Leica Akademie shoot and evaluation
> session on Thursday. We used borrower Digilux 2 cameras provided by Leica,
> Ralph burned CD's overnight for our critique Friday morning. We used 
> digital
> due to a percieved concern that Ralph might not be able to find a store to
> process our film overnight for the next-day critique.
> 
> The LHSA 2005 Spring shoot will be in New Orleans (are you there, Sonny?) 
> in
> late March or early April and the annual meeting in San Francisco in 
> October
> '05 (though some possibility of last weekend in September). Leica and Ralph
> Hagenauer will be doing another Leica Akademie, we'll have a Napa wine
> country tour and hope to have a post-meeting three-day excursion to 
> Yosemite
> about which I have already spoken with the Birdman of Sacramento, our own
> Doug - get-out-the-Leicaflex-SL's - Herr. For that, I may even have to add 
> a
> 400/6,8 Telyt to the arsenal.
> 
> Join LHSA early, join often! Even if you don't get to a meeting - which you
> should - the VIEWFINDER magazine is worth the annual dues. My god, if Marc
> James belongs, can you all be far behind?
> 
> See the website to join, tell them that LaK 9 sent you.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> Seth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Dory" <dorysrus@mindspring.com>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron
> 
> > Ah, but I can tell you that it is a very sweet lens.  From 1.4 out very
> > good image quality with very little flare; you can make it flare in the
> > usual ways but it is hard to do.
> >
> > I probably have more 50mm lenses than anyone on the list except Dr. Yao
> > (Please don't ask, I really am not a collector, maybe they breed when I
> > am not looking) I have to say that when mine arrives I will have sale
> > signs on Summicrons, Canons, and other respectable lenses.  The only
> > ones I will keep are the ones with unusual attributes like the Summarit
> > wide open.
> >
> > Yes, I did give one a six roll test drive.
> >
> > Don
> > dorysrus@mindspring.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > Of Frank Filippone
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:38 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] Summilux vs Summicron
> >
> > Even me, the cheapskate, would take a used M7 for $1400...
> > Anyone game?
> >
> > On topic ( like that really matters around here)..... The old Summilux
> > is
> > selling for around $800-1000, and if you like the look of the lens, it
> > is a
> > good buy.  They were always over $1000 a few months ago......
> >
> > The new ASPH ( John Collier has one ( or at least thinks he still has
> > it,
> > but really Leica has it) and feels it is a wonderful lens) is $2500, and
> > I
> > think  you should take it out for a test drive beore you spend that kind
> > of
> > money for a 50mm lens.
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > red735i@earthlink.net
> >
> > used M7s, which are now selling for, what, around $2800, are only
> > worth approximately 50% of their new priced once they've been driven off
> > the lot.
> >
> >
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In reply to: Message from dorysrus at mindspring.com (Don Dory) ([Leica] Summilux vs Summicron)
Message from sethrosner at direcway.com (Seth Rosner) ([Leica] Summilux vs Summicron; and LHSA)