Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/29

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Subject: [Leica] Digital Module R
From: grduprey at rockwellcollins.com (grduprey@rockwellcollins.com)
Date: Mon Nov 29 09:25:39 2004

Again I agree.  My point is that the local Canon dealers are pushing the 
MK II over the 1Ds, as the later is slower and much more expensive.  As to 
weight, yes both are going to be in the same weight class as the R8 and 
Digital Back, no argument there.

Now to fan the flames, ;-)

I have been very happy with the new R8 since I received it last month. The 
operation and construction and attention to details is exceptional, and I 
dare say equal and possibly better than any M camera I have ever owned or 
handled.  Yes, it is larger, heavier, and louder, but the quality and 
attention to detail is second to none.  Even the back fits tightly, which 
is a first for any SLR I have seen/used.  The leatherette, or what ever it 
is made of fits exactly as it should.  Now I expect the 'M Only Crowd' 
will now send Fire and Brimstone raining down on me.  I can take it, as I 
like both systems.  ;-)

Gene


The 1D or 1Ds is definitely slower, but very few folks on this list are
into sequence shooting, and for that they are doing, the full-frame body
is probably plenty fast. And yes, the MKII is not full-frame - I believe
it's 1.3, although it may be 1.5. But then the digiback isn't full-frame
either. That was part of my point.

My wedding partner recently made the jump from the 10D to the MarkII and
it is quite a machine. Yes, it's big. But it's also pretty amazing in
terms of capability. And when considering big, remember that you're not
comparing these cameras to Ms, but to R8s with digital backs attached.
;-)

B. D.

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital Module R


BD

I would agree with you, but the Canon dealers, I have talked to prefer
the 
1D MK II over the 1Ds as they feel the 1Ds is slower to work with for 
every day type shooting and is better suited for studio work, and a
better 
value for the dollar.  Also from what I remember, only the 1Ds is full 
frame, the 1D MK II is the 1.5 factor sensor.

Gene


Let me make a suggestion to those of you who are considering an
alternative to the Digital back... Thing seriously about either the EOS
MarkII or the D1...Yes, they are infinitely more expensive than the D20.
And, yes, you'll get great results with the D20. But IF you were or are
planning to spend $4-6K on the digital back (and I mention the higher
price because the dollar seems to be heading for the basement against
the Euro, which means the price of the digi back has to be going up as
we speak), you might consider the higher end Canons, which will be more
likely to give you want you're looking for in terms of results. Frankly,
the D20 might well provide an image as good as that the digi back will
produce, but who knows. And I would suggest that the Mark II and the D1
or D1s will have better viewfinders than the D20 - but they may well not
be up to R8/9 standards. (But then no SLR is. ;-))

Actually, the D1 or D1s is probably the way to go, because it will give
you the fullframe 35 sensor, which seems to be what most people here
want...

B. D.


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