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Subject: [Leica] Yasuhara Reccieved Quick Review--why buy one?
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Fri Jun 24 14:13:23 2005
References: <ceb1a5650506241310251c9ddc@mail.gmail.com> <004b01c578f9$e9e66ef0$5540e344@newukolbqveo9i> <ceb1a5650506241331638017b@mail.gmail.com>

the CLE had concentric electrical contacts on the shutter release that 
turned the meter on from the conductivity of your finger touched it.
it think a slight pressure also worked if you were wearing gloves.
the X700 and their other SLR line of the time had the same release type.
the CLE also used the same TTL as the X line.

interestingly, the CLE used a metring system similar to the Olympus OM2
which read light exposure reflected off the film (or front shutter at high
shutter speeds).

the CLE sort of threw together a bunch of novel features into one
camera.  it was my first "M" body.

-rei


On Jun24 16:31, Mark Langer wrote:
> No, the light meter on the Minolta works differently.  You turn on the
> power by a tiny switch on the front of the camera.  The meter itself
> is activated by the lightest touch of your finger on the shutter
> release button.  That will activate the meter long enough for you to
> get a reading (shutter speed is visible in the viewfinder) and then it
> turns itself off.  The shutter lever doesn't protrude at all.
> 
> I've used the CL and the Minolta, and the Minolta has some advantages.
>  It meters off the shutter curtain and during exposure, off the film
> itself (it was the first camera to do this)  Its rangefinder has a
> wider base than the CL -- enough so that I can accurately focus my
> 100mm f2 Canon lens wide open with it, so I think the 40/1.4 would be
> no problem.  In fact, I'm thinking of getting one of these myself. 
> Right now, I pretty much have the DV 28/3.5 permanently mounted on my
> CLE, but I really like 40mm as a focal length.  Anyway, I've used the
> CV Bessa, which is a nice camera but I prefer the CLE.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 6/24/05, Jeffery Smith <jls@runbox.com> wrote:
> > I had a Leica CL but am left-eyed. As a result, I couldn't use the light
> > meter as the lever had to be in the back position in the middle of my
> > forehead.
> > 
> > But I did like the camera. Does the Minolta lever also have to be in the
> > film advance ready position? The Voigtlander 40/1.4 would be really nice
> > on that camera.
> > 
> > Jeffery Smith
> > New Orleans, LA
> > http://www.400tx.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> > Langer
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:11 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Yasuhara Reccieved Quick Review--why buy one?
> > 
> > 
> > Have you considered a Minolta CLE?  Granted, it is an interchangable
> > lens camera, but offers either metered semi-auto, or totally manual.
> > A really nice camera too.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > On 6/24/05, Jeffery Smith <jls@runbox.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the offer. :-) What I really want is a totally manual one
> > > (I didn't much like the shutter speed priority of the S3) but with a
> > > light meter. I've gotten to the point that I shoot a f/2.8 or wider
> > > open. For me, the functionality of the R3a is about as close as I can
> > > get to perfection with size/weight and functionality.
> > >
> > > Jeffery Smith
> > > New Orleans, LA
> > > http://www.400tx.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org
> > > [mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> > > Langer
> > > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:07 PM
> > > To: Leica Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Yasuhara Reccieved Quick Review--why buy one?
> > >
> > >
> > > Probably the reason why there aren't fixed lens RFs about the size of
> > > a Leica CL is that the market is awash with excellent ones used.  Why
> > > plunk down big bucks for a new one, when you can get a Minolta 7SII or
> > 
> > > 9, a Konica Auto S3 or S2, a Canon G17QL, etc, etc. for a relative
> > > bargain?  In the same way that a large used market for M Leicas cuts
> > > into the sales base for new M Leicas, so too do these cut into the
> > > sales base for the rangefinder of your dreams.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/24/05, Jeffery Smith <jls@runbox.com> wrote:
> > > > I think that the void existing in the RF area now is the small,
> > > > light,
> > >
> > > > fixed-lens RF rather than the large, heavy, substantial RF. I
> > > > generally avoid carrying a larger camera. Right now, the camera that
> > 
> > > > fits that description most closely would be the Bessa R with the
> > > > 35/2.5 pancake on it. A fixed lens RF more along the size of the
> > > > Leica
> > >
> > > > CL would be nice.
> > > >
> > > > Jeffery Smith
> > > > New Orleans, LA
> > > > http://www.400tx.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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-- 
Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com
Ridgewood, New Jersey


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