Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/07/11

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Subject: [Leica] The great thing about teaching a workshop...
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Mon Jul 11 00:08:47 2005

What I meant was this:

1) A lot of the atmosphere of this series comes from the blurry feel:
movement blur, out of focus subjects. As I understand she shot this in auto
mode. In other words, the feel was determined by the camera, and not by the
shooter. So no previsualisation, meaning no decision while shooting on this
effect. That's a pity because it would have added something more to her
talent.
2) Another part of the atmosphere comes from the fact that it is B&W. Which
adds to a certain "reality". The B&W was done by you, very well even. Not by
her.
3) So it might be interesting to see the color versions: IMO that is the
real test. It is a lot more difficult to produce strong color work than B&W
(IMO again). I'm willing to elaborate on this, if necessary.
4) She captured some intense scenes, I stand with that, but, and this may
sound very blunt, she witnessed a situation that was intense by itself. Were
these people she knew?
5) Leading to: 20 out of 200 is not that much in such circumstances. A first
selection of 60 out of 200, and then weeding out some more, generally leads
to 30 or 40 out of 200.
6) True, one could say that you don't see this kind of quality often on the
LUG. But then again, not everybody on this list is PJ'ing. I'm pretty sure
if that were the case, we'd see such work more often.

This does not imply that I do not like her work, on the contrary. I just
wanted to put some question marks by your description of her having "it".

As always,
Kind regards,
Philippe


> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:42:21 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The great thing about teaching a workshop...
> 
> What are you talking about, Philippe? And what successful documentary
> photographer of the last 40 years, working in that kind of fluid situation,
> shot or shoots with 2 1/4 and has the luxury of revisualization? This isn't
> shooting on a movie set - it's shooting in a situation where the
> photographer has to spend as much time previsualizing whether he or she is
> going to get jumped, as he or she has time to spend on previsualizing the
> shot.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> 
> On 7/10/05 2:17 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
> 
>> Damn. That's a pity: it rules out a part of previsualisation.
>> She captured some intense scenes though.
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:53:02 -0400
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The great thing about teaching a workshop...
>>> 
>>>    It was shot in color with a Canon D20 and I converted it to black and
>>> white for her. ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/10/05 1:34 PM, "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Very good decision to push her that way.
>>>> I guess this is MF work. I hope she sticks to it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:41:51 -0400
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The great thing about teaching a workshop...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently she was thinking portraiture, but I think - hope - I may 
>>>>> have
>>>>> pushed her in the documentary/pj direction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/10/05 10:54 AM, "Jim Laurel" <jplaurel@spectare.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Indeed, B.D., Casey's work is fantastic.  I take it she's interested
>>>>>> in photojournalism?  I don't doubt we'll be hearing more about her in
>>>>>> the future.
>>>>>> --Jim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2005, at 6:35 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ...is discovering that one of your students has IT...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This work was shot by a 24-year-old woman named Casey Splain;
>>>>>>> remember that
>>>>>>> name:
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album244
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> B. D.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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