Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/07/30

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Subject: [Leica] RE: LUG, Dell Bashing!!!!
From: creativevisions at verizon.net (Michael J Herring)
Date: Sat Jul 30 14:45:26 2005
References: <410-220057529214945531@edge.net> <008e01c59509$bd7ce390$e8e64142@D1S9FY41> <003f01c59513$093172c0$0201a8c0@jayanand> <4dccee3d05073008071bb44f1@mail.gmail.com>

Dave,

Nothing like being the master of your own "domain".

Take care,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Mason" <masonster@gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: LUG, Dell Bashing!!!!


> Jayanand,
>
> This used to be much easier to do here in the states but it seems that
> those small shops are disappearing. I worked in a small advanced
> development group at Red Hat back around 1997 and since we were
> separated from the company proper we could go out and get our own
> supplies. We bought our own components and put them together ourselves
> - when I was last there those machines were still running strong
> though now relegated to small server status and I think one was a
> machine for the receptionist. Still, there is nothing like building
> your own machine to know where to look when something goes wrong.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On 7/30/05, Jayanand Govindaraj <jgovindaraj@eth.net> wrote:
>> Seth,
>> I run a stockbroking firm, and we cannot be without our servers during
>> trading hours at all - I gave up on all branded PCs - terrible service. I
>> now have a small shop build machines to my specs, and maintain them, and 
>> it
>> has worked very very well. By the way, Dell in India will not even come 
>> and
>> check out problems on site without being paid in advance....that means 
>> two
>> days downtime, minimum.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand Govindaraj
>> Chennai, India
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Seth Rosner" <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 6:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: LUG, Dell Bashing!!!!
>>
>>
>> > If Jim's message is a motion, I second.
>> >
>> > After using only IBMs since the start of PC's, on the recommendation of 
>> > a
>> > close friend and client who is an IT consultant to major New York City
>> > banks and financial institutions, in 1998 I bought a Dell, maxed out in
>> > spec, that he put together in my office. I used it and only it
>> > continuously until June 2004, in my law practice, personal 
>> > communications
>> > and the 435,612 emails I have had on the LUG   ;-)   Zero problems with
>> > hardware; occasional problems with Microsoft, McAfee and Norton 
>> > software.
>> > In June 2004 I replaced that machine with my current Dell, also with 
>> > maxed
>> > out spec, only because I wanted the higher speed chip. Also got the 
>> > twin
>> > mirror hard drives for additional internal backup. Being the almost
>> > ultimate non-techie, I had a Dell person come to my office to assemble 
>> > the
>> > new machine and migrate safely all of my law practice and personal 
>> > files.
>> > No problem. Gave my old Dell to my daughter who is far more
>> > computer-literate than me. She has used it for the last 14 months 
>> > without
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > Reading this thread has been scary. Why I wrote Mike Herring about
>> > constructing a (costly) custom and bullet-proof machine.
>> >
>> > As a practicing lawyer, I cannot afford to have my machine go down. 
>> > Jim's
>> > message gives me a little bit of cold comfort. Thanks, Jim.
>> >
>> > Seth
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jim Nichols" <nicholsj@edge.net>
>> > To: <lug@leica-users.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:49 PM
>> > Subject: [Leica] RE: LUG, Dell Bashing!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hey, Luggers,
>> >>
>> >> I set off this rant session by making a simple suggestion that Tina 
>> >> ask
>> >> Dell a question.  I'm appalled at the venom displayed by some against 
>> >> a
>> >> company that tries hard to provide low-cost, reliable computer systems 
>> >> to
>> >> a demanding public.  I purchased my first 286 machine from Dell before
>> >> they adopted the Dell name as their brand name.  I have purchased over
>> >> the years for various family members, six Dell machines, one Compaq, 
>> >> and
>> >> one brand no longer made.  Several of these went to grandkids entering
>> >> college, not an easy environment.  The Dells have given very good
>> >> service. No machine that is mass-produced at minimum cost is going to 
>> >> be
>> >> perfect. If some of you want to spend several thousand dollars to get
>> >> custom-built gamer machines so you can run PhotoShop at top speed, go 
>> >> to
>> >> it.  But please bring this subject to a close.  You are not helping
>> >> anyone with the constant chorus of criticism.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Nichols
>> >> Tullahoma, TN
>> >>
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