Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/09/22

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Subject: [Leica] Re: LUG DMR
From: leica at robsteve.com (Robert Stevens)
Date: Thu Sep 22 15:51:08 2005
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Felix:
Here is the hearsay I was referring to:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/267995/0

It is a long read.

There are some side by side comparisons, using Leica lenses on both, 
starting here.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/267995/64



Regards,

Robert



At 07:29 PM 9/22/2005, F?lix L?pez de Maturana wrote:

>>The hearsay though is a good file out of the DMR beats or exceeds 
>>the 1Ds MkII, even using Leica lenses on both.  I think it might be 
>>a CMOS vs CCD thing.  The DMR chip is a CCD made by Kodak.  A 
>>similar approach Olympus took.
>
>Robert
>
>The weight of the cameras was really without batteries and I 
>extracted them from commercial leaflets. If you measured differently 
>at home it'll be so...As a owner of R body and lenses I'd  sincerely 
>like to believe your above quoted words but every test I've read - 
>from the Leica enthusiast Erwin Putts to the last Chasseusr 
>d'Images-  aren't  not as brilliant as the owners comments.  Leica 
>DMR has more noise above 200 ASA, has a truly slow start up, has a 
>very short battery life, has measurable less resolution, has strong 
>moir? problems, has a working speed and a buffer much slower and 
>cannot be adapted -configured-to the particular way of acting of a 
>photographers what may be considered either an advantage or not.
>
>By no means I consider that beats or exceeds the 1Ds MkII -I own 
>one- and I have tested  finally the DMR. The ergonomy is good but 
>it's not a problem for someone who's switching often of systems. I'd 
>kindly ask Tina, Ted or Natham if I'm wrong. I've decided that Leica 
>is film for me and that other brands are for digital. I'll follow 
>using Leicas but not in digital arena. It's my personal decision and 
>up to now I've not seen anything can change my mind.
>
>I'm really glad to see owners of DMR are happy. Bearing in mind the 
>investment concerned it's fortunately a good news. In digital I'm on 
>the way of quick developments launching cameras with full format 
>sensor and smaller bodies. Therefore I've ordered a Canon EOS 5D 
>with kit lens. The combo is a lot cheaper than DMR. But finally none 
>of them has the pleasure of shooting an old Nikon F or the Leica M7 
>with the 28mm Summicron ASPH the best photographic equipment I've 
>seen in my life.
>
>Regards
>
>Felix
>
>
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