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Subject: [Leica] given up: now spot metering
From: bruce at ralgo.nl (bruce)
Date: Thu Feb 9 02:32:03 2006
References: <22776246.1139338750534.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <43E90565.5000507@adrenaline.com> <402DA9F8-41AF-4EBC-9F27-17C48EFFCF4D@btinternet.com> <43E9A976.6060300@adrenaline.com> <a9be60ff7e3e1bdfcab4146b1b2a2ed9@ncable.net.au> <24F7650B-EC67-43B6-BE3D-121B6338508F@ralgo.nl> <c7da24152db281dee784b4c7442b94c3@ncable.net.au>

Not exactly, it's more a question of "seeing" the change in the light  
level ................ and adjusting accordingly.

B.

On 9-feb-2006, at 0:10, Alastair Firkin wrote:

> Its a matter of "knowing" what a cloud will do to the scene isn't it?
>
> On 09/02/2006, at 9:03, bruce wrote:
>
>> Hi Alistair,
>>
>> Some twenty plus years ago, I purchased a Pentax spotmeter, to  
>> supplement the readings from my original Weston.
>>
>> Wherever I intend/ed to take photographs, I meter/ed the  
>> environment ........... measured the skin tones (sometimes on  
>> myself), plus the highs and the lows in the environs. I then fix  
>> the setting in function of which area of the image I wish to be  
>> best exposed in relation to the others.
>>
>> And thereafter, just watch (naked eye, mine) the changes in the  
>> light. I find it easiest in the tropics ............... and worst  
>> in this land, where the clouds are constantly changing the light-- 
>> fall ............. ugh!
>>
>> B.
>>
>> On 8-feb-2006, at 22:24, Alastair Firkin wrote:
>>
>>> G'day,
>>> I have spent a long time trying to "learn" to estimate exposure,  
>>> so that I could set the M's without bringing them up to my eye.  
>>> Same goes for focus and those neat little tabs on the early Leica  
>>> lenes (I love that). Its not too hard and as you say is aided by  
>>> film latitude. Now I am going the opposite direction, and will  
>>> soon be doing mainly spot metering and quick "zone" estimations.  
>>> This is not good for a street grab, but great for other forms of  
>>> photography. Hasselblad got all excited about it with the release  
>>> of the 205TCC, and it has made sense to me. Now that I've been  
>>> using it, I love it.
>>>
>>> Trick is AFAICS, to grab a reading from the highlights set it to  
>>> a zone your film/sensor can tolerate by prior experience and in  
>>> "general" let the image follow suit. If you need to be really  
>>> fancy, check the lowlight as well and establish a range,  
>>> adjusting contrast to suit, but I suppose that is what the  
>>> histogram does for you in a graphical way. Checking histograms  
>>> and re-exposing is slow however and is not going to suit the  
>>> needs of the M user.
>>>
>>> On 08/02/2006, at 19:19, Scott McLoughlin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably like many others, I have my D70's little LCD screen more
>>>> or less permanently set to the "display histogram" mode :-)
>>>>
>>>> I can't directly translate in my head a histogram into the  
>>>> visual appearance
>>>> of a photo, but I imagine I'll get there soon enough. For now, I  
>>>> generally
>>>> just shoot raw and try to "expose to the right" while avoiding  
>>>> blown
>>>> highlights.  From there, should I have the motivation and  
>>>> energy, alot can
>>>> be tweaked during RAW conversion.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if I were more careful, I'd use the D70's spot meter on  
>>>> the highlights
>>>> and adjust exposure from there, but I haven't spent the time to  
>>>> master
>>>> that technique yet.
>>>>
>>>> But you got to hand it to film where some crappy exposures can  
>>>> often
>>>> be molded into nice photos in the darkroom. On this very list, I  
>>>> believe, I've
>>>> read that HCB himself - patron saint of we Leica users -  
>>>> guestimated exposure
>>>> often and relied on a tight relationship with a master printer.
>>>>
>>>> Now, that's not me. I use a nice metered M6TTL and have 2 Sekonic
>>>> meters I'll sometimes use in incident mode "just in case" :-)
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> Alastair
>>>
>>>
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> Alastair
>
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