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Subject: [Leica] enough with Olympus DSLR postings PLEASE
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Wed Mar 22 18:10:17 2006
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B.D.
I did not say that photography was in trouble, I said the business was in
trouble.  As people who know what a camera should be able to do leave the
business and are replaced on the retail side by some loser who may or may
not be able to run the register then the knowledge base will be what is
found on the net.  Have you read the other discussion groups?

On the manufacturing side, we are seeing the large electronics firms move in
both because they would like to expand into a temporarily high margin
business and also it is a place to use spare manufacturing capacity.  These
big conglomerates understand cameras like IBM understands PC's, ot that's
right, they sold the business.

Don
don.dory@gmail.com


On 3/22/06, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Yup, the business is changing. And I would hazard a guess that more people
> today are actually carrying around cameras all the time than did a decade
> ago. Some of those cameras are embedded in cell phones, but those people
> are thinking about images- and those cameras are getting better.
>
> Times change; economic configurations change; art forms change.
>
> By the way, most buggy whip manufacturers went out of business when cars
> came in. And most auto manufacturers are long gone as well. You may bemoan
> their loss, but more people are driving than ever before. Which may or may
> not be good.
>
> Bottom line? If you love film, use it. But all of this digital is
> destroying photography is pretty silly.
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> ...... Original Message .......
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:00:40 -0500 "Don Dory" <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote:
> "B.D.,
> "I beg to differ.  On the manufacturing side we have lost Kyocera, Konica,
> "Minolta.  If sales don't pick up we will lose Olympus and NIkon within
> three
> "years: Olympus after a major sale and pirating Nikon's coop dollars
> managed
> "a whopping 11% market share in the U.S market.  If Nikon doesn't start
> "shipping huge quantities of D200's really soon they will be looking
> fondly
> "on the stepper business.  Kodak will probably be out of the camera
> business
> "in less time based on the amount of space they gave cameras at PMA.
> "
> "On the retail side, the small players are going away as in closed doors
> with
> "no one interested in the business.  For photography related purchases we
> "will soon be at Wal-Mart, Ritz, B&H, the local big box electronics store,
> "and a few regional chains. K&S, Samy's, Bergen, and a few others will
> "survive at least for this generation.  Without a place to promote
> "photography, we will end up with camera phones as the standard equipment.
> "
> "Strong words, sure; but you were not talking to the folks in the photo
> "business in Florida.  An indication of how things are going is the
> serious
> "talk of folding PMA into CES.
> "
> "Don
> "don.dory@gmail.com
> "
> "
> "On 3/21/06, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:
> ">
> "> Possibly, it is because the advent of digital has mostly
> "> > been disastrous to the photographic industry.
> "> >
> "> > Don
> "> No, it's caused major changes in the photographic industry.
> ">
> ">
> ">
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