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Subject: [Leica] Agfa 400 in Rodinal - Bad Idea
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Tue May 23 16:17:58 2006

I think the problem was compounded by the harsh lighting and cloudless
skies. A more complex subject might have come out looking better. I may try
a roll indoors.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com




-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Ridings
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:58 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Agfa 400 in Rodinal - Bad Idea


I used to always use APX400 and Rodinal when I went to Africa. It kept the
contrast in check.

http://www.dlridings.se/paw/2003/34.html
http://www.dlridings.se/paw/2003/35.html
http://www.dlridings.se/paw/2004/14.html

Works even at a honky-tonk:

http://www.dlridings.se/paw/2003/37.html

But I always used Rodinal at 1:25. You don't get the "Rodinal effect" at
1:25 to the same degree you do at 1:50. I think Mark Rabiner used to say
that anything under 1:100 is for sissies.

Daniel


On 5/23/06, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342@cox.net> wrote:
> I think it still works for faces in some circumstances (like Phil 
> Swango's daughter's face, with not as much as a hint of a blemish, it 
> would give a nice high-fashion look). And maybe a closeup of Ernest 
> Hemingway with his hair blown around on the fishing boat. But Phil's 
> daughter lives too far away, and Ernest is long gone. I still like 
> Rodinal, but I'll stick to APX 100 + Rodinal.
>
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marc James Small
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Agfa 400 in Rodinal - Bad Idea
>
>
> At 07:21 PM 5/22/06 -0500, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> >http://www.400tx.com/AgfaAPX400-Rodinal.html
> >
> >The grain isn't that noticeable in the darker areas of the photo, but 
> >in the lighter grays, it is too grainy for me. And shots with open, 
> >cloudless sky are like sandstone.
> >
> >Jeffery Smith
> >New Orleans, LA
> >http://www.400tx.com
>
> Jeffery
>
> You might well be too young to recall the intonation that Rodinal 
> brought in the 1950's and 1960's -- "sharp as hell but grain as large 
> as golfballs",  a phrasae invented, I believe, by my friend Ed Meyers 
> when he was working for MODERN PHOTOGRAPHY.
>
> Rodinal  is a grand developer and is a real survivor, having been 
> around since 1891, and, yes, AGFA blew it by not doing a huge 
> advertising campaign about it in 1991.  It is a really neat developer, 
> but not one I'd use for forced processing due to that grain problem.
>
> D-76 is probably the best base for forced schwarz-weiss development, 
> albeit this is a relative youngster, having only been around since 
> 1926.
>
> Marc
>
> msmall@aya.yale.edu
> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>
>
>
>
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