Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The beauty of our nation is individuality and the ability to express that. Today's military, though voluntary, is still a very close mirror to civilian society. No one joins the military so they can go to war. We join because we want to take part in the benefits of service during and after our hitches are done. That said, with the whole of our society represented in our military, how many of us died for a war that we didn't agree with? I went to Iraq, served proudly alongside friends who died. I think about them every day, sometimes every waking moment. Why did I leave unscathed physically? I lost another one of my Seabee brothers just two days ago. I have known people who died in Iraq but didn't agree with the administration. Our political opinions don't matter out there. We don't serve for the greater good of the nation while in combat. We serve to save our asses & those of the others in our squads. Back home this war is an argument of rhetoric blue vs. red. There is no rhetoric out in the streets of Fallujah or any other Iraqi city. There's only your comrades during those moments and you are there only for them, they for you. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Rei Shinozuka Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:46 AM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Redress of grievance / Iraq ditto. i don't mind 'OT' if it is entertaining or at least not mean-spirited. -rei On Oct29 10:51, Rob McClure wrote: > If I sent this thread of B.S. to my volunteer son, who is currently and > proudly serving in Iraq, he would think all of you had lost your minds! > He gets very upset when he hears these kinds of comments about the > President, not to mention the lopsided reporting being perpetrated by > the mainstream media. He says it has no semblance to what is really > happening there. > > Now let's get back to talking about cameras or go offline if you want > to spar. > > Rob McClure > > On Oct 29, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > > >Correction...he doesn't think he's king. He thinks he is Jesus. God > >has been > >telling him what to do. > > > >Jeffery Smith > >New Orleans, LA > >http://www.400tx.com > >http://400tx.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org > >[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ric > >Carter > >Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:04 PM > >To: Leica Users Group > >Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Redress of grievance / Iraq > > > > > >Sorta, Walt, but they did volunteer with some unspoken contract that > >they would not be thrown into danger for the whims of some nut case > >political theoreticians or would-be king. There's a pretty big > >stretch from the Constitutional "defense" of the country to the neo- > >con BS we are dying for today. > > > >Ric > > > > > >On Oct 28, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Walt Johnson wrote: > > > >>Javier > >> > >>One consideration with the current Iraq war is the military are > >>volunteers. Seems a bit beyond the pale to volunteer and then > >>complain. > >> > >>Walt > >> > >>Javier Perez wrote: > >> > >>>Hi everyone Sorry for the OT > >>> > >>>If you know any active duty or reserve personnel > >>>please pass this link on to them > >>> > >>>http://www.appealforredress.org/ > >>> > >>>It's legal! (I think....) > >>> > >>>Javier > >>> > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https:// > >>>voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Leica Users Group. > >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Leica Users Group. > >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > Rob McClure > Upper Sandusky, OH > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com Ridgewood, New Jersey _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information