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Subject: [Leica] ISO 2500 and another topic- chimping
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Wed Nov 15 06:48:11 2006
References: <C1808F68.181DB%bd@bdcolenphoto.com>

You are far too accomplished to be insecure. Or maybe you are insecure 
because you are accomplished.. :-)  It is, however, a good thing you use 
Olympus gear. When you wrote "flash" I could picture St. Barnack coming 
at you with a pitchfork. =-O   As long as you don't put your Leicas on a 
tripod and really tempt fate.

Walt

B. D. Colen wrote:

>Well Walt, I admit that I tend toward chimping, as I've always been
>tremendously insecure about my results and love instant feedback - but that
>may have something to do with being seriously ADD;-). But being able to take
>a quick 'peek' and knowing that everything's going well - particularly in
>terms of flash exposure, is very nice.
>
>
>
>On 11/15/06 9:29 AM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>B.D.
>>
>>Result verification? That may work well for studio set-ups but I'd not
>>consider it for event work. I've labored under the apparent
>>misconception a rangefinder allows "chimping" on the run. No mirror
>>blackout, shutter lag, etc. and what  you see you get. Verifying
>>exposure either comes with experience or a light meter. I will admit
>>your descriptive abilities are as usual, very picturesque. I can see
>>someone testing you theory by handing an M8 to a chimp. ;-)
>>
>>Walt
>>
>>B. D. Colen wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Let's not confuse 'result verification' with "chimping." Result 
>>>verification
>>>- the digital equivalent of being using a Polaroid to verify exposure, 
>>>etc.,
>>>is one of the great advantages and joys of digital. The term "chimping"
>>>refers to using a digital camera as a chimpanzee presumably would if you
>>>handed it a digital camera - shoot, look;shoot, look; shoot, look, ad
>>>infinitum - missing shots all the while.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 11/15/06 7:29 AM, "Eric" <ericm@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Michiel:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I don't understand what's wrong with chimping.
>>>>>I thought that this is the great advantage of digital, being able to
>>>>>check your shot right away and correct if nescecary.
>>>>>Oke, if you're doing a wedding or trying to nail down the desicieve
>>>>>moment you should keep your eye on the vf.
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>I see nothing wrong with chimping.  Especially at a wedding or when 
>>>>you're
>>>>trying to nail a decisive moment.  Not during the peak action of course, 
>>>>but
>>>>it takes less than a second to look at the histogram every so often to 
>>>>make
>>>>sure what you think you're recording is what you are recording.
>>>>
>>>>I'll admit it.  I've gone from a dark building to bright sunshine, and
>>>>forgot to change my ISO from 1600 back to 100.  After a few exposures
>>>>outside, I glanced at the histogram and realized my mistake.  I'm sure it
>>>>won't be the last time, either.
>>>>
>>>>Chiimping is a great way to break the ice with kids.  Even the most 
>>>>camera
>>>>shy kid likes to see pictures of himself, in my experience.  Right 
>>>>before I
>>>>started moving to digital and when I was still using entirely film, a 4 
>>>>year
>>>>old I was shooting had a hard time believing she couldn't see the results
>>>>right away.  After a few shots, she asked if she could see them on the
>>>>camera.  :)
>>>>
>>>>I don't use a hand held light meter before every single shot.  Nor do I
>>>>chimp after every shot.  Chimping is just one more tool that's available.
>>>>Like all tools, there is potential to use it both to your advantage or
>>>>disadvantage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Eric
>>>>http://canid.com/
>>>>
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