Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/05

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Subject: [Leica] comments from one of the judges
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sat May 5 13:28:35 2007
References: <15BE8DA2E2332BF87D351F09@hindolveston.reid.org> <463CAA16.7020600@waltjohnson.com>

On May 5, 2007, at 9:00 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:

> It seems many of our winners fit into the same category on a  
> monthly basis. Heavy on graphics and generally light on content.  
> I'd prefer to see judging based upon capturing those moments Leicas  
> were made for. /*Kristy Prep, */I think is an excellent example and  
> would have put it as #1. Although agreeing with the judge who  
> thinks it's the best I can't go along with his/her criticism. Dead  
> space is something one deals with with filling newspapers with  
> images. What it generally means is we need more space for ads,  
> let's crop the hell out of everything. Sometimes, I think, the eye  
> needs a place to rest on an image. /*Kristy*/ can be cropped but it  
> loses an overall balance. Make it tight enough and the hands seem  
> to emerge from some dark place in a not too comfortable manner.  
> Ofter talking too much about an image does seem to detract. When we  
> can simply look and absorb. Unlike our judge, the hands don't MAKE  
> it for me. It is Kristy's acquiescences to the routine I find  has  
> me involved.
> /*Hot Lips*/, on the other hand could sure use a bit of tightening  
> up. Nice image, great expression, but too loose. Steve's other  
> image,/*White Crosses*/, should have been a winner. Content, which  
> fits the contest criteria. Not that a monthly category should be  
> limiting, but sometimes a category does add a bit of discipline.
>
> Mad's  /*Aros*/. to me, is more interesting than what placed first.  
> Graphic, mysterious and intriguing. Neal's /*Boom*,/ has great  
> timing  and color. Degree of difficulty on that shot should count  
> for something. William's /*Colameter */and Neal's /*Barnflag */ 
> jumped out at me as well.
>
> One other thing. Steve's self-portrait with the red hat. how the  
> heck did he do that?

:-)  very  interesting and thanks Walt...

whatever gave you the idea that was a self portrait ?

Graham Battison generously helped me with the PS work...

I wouldn't be too surprised if someday we  see some red sheep...

or white sheep with red eyes...

Steve


>
> Walt
> Brian Reid wrote:
>> I was pleased to see that 81 images had been submitted in April,  
>> the highest number ever. However, I found the overall quality of  
>> the images in the April contest below the level of previous  
>> months. In going through the images, I could only award one or two  
>> stars to most images, with just a few getting 3 stars. In  
>> contrast, in previous months I have often given out 4 or 5 stars  
>> to the images I liked best.
>>
>> I think that the theme "red" was interpreted too literally by many  
>> contestants. As a result, there are many mediocre images that I  
>> think were entered only because there was something red in them. I  
>> would encourage people to interpret the theme more broadly in the  
>> future, especially since Brian has instructed the judges to simply  
>> rate the images on their photographic merits and not on how  
>> closely they follow the theme.
>>
>> On the positive side: the images that appear among the winners and  
>> honorable mentions were also my favorites, so I guess I was in  
>> synch with the other judges (and I do not know who they are). The  
>> winning image is a beautiful abstract, well lit and well composed,  
>> although the title seems a bit out of place, given the  
>> connotations of the phrase. I also gave 3 stars to "Hot Lips"-- 
>> just a fun portrait, well photographed.
>>
>> My overall favorite image of the contest, though, was the third- 
>> place image, "Kristy Prep". I like the light, the way the woman's  
>> face stands out, and one can interpret the image on many levels:  
>> is she an object being prepared for exhibition? The hands applying  
>> the make-up greatly add to the image, indeed they MAKE the image,  
>> for me at least. Personally, I would crop the image a bit tighter;  
>> there is a lot of dead space on the top and left sides of the  
>> image which detracts from the composition.
>>
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Brian Reid) ([Leica] comments from one of the judges)
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